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  • Walt Liquor
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    #11
    Originally posted by killacash
    Dunno, he has skills no doubt but not the complete package for me to approve. Dzinzurik plays with his food too much. He should of been got him out of there. Korobov is still my fav EURO right now.
    he doesn't have the killer instinct, but neither does floyd.

    he's beaten some world class guys with different styles. but he isn't a risk taker

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    • The Hammer
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      #12
      Originally posted by killacash
      Dunno, he has skills no doubt but not the complete package for me to approve. Dzinzurik plays with his food too much. He should of been got him out of there. Korobov is still my fav EURO right now.
      He did get him out of there, he won by TKO.

      In the stoppage round, his opponent wasn't able to punch back and Sergiy was landing almost at will. He doesn't have one-punch KO power, but he's a very skilled boxer, his punches are quick and sharp.

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      • Jim Jeffries
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        #13
        Originally posted by Walt Liquor
        he doesn't have the killer instinct, but neither does floyd.

        he's beaten some world class guys with different styles. but he isn't a risk taker
        Judging by the Winky fight, I think PWill's style is all wrong for Dzin, though I would also favor him to beat any other 54 pounder besides Paul and Martinez.

        But since you bring him up, how do you think Floyd would fare against him, considering that both southpaws and people with good jabs have had some degree of success against him in the past?

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        • Sweet Jesus
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          #14
          Nice display of boxing. Especially for a guy coming off an 18 month layoff.

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          • Mikhnienko
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            #15
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            Originally posted by Walt Liquor
            he doesn't have the killer instinct, but neither does floyd.

            he's beaten some world class guys with different styles. but he isn't a risk taker
            See below

            Originally posted by Tunney!
            He did get him out of there, he won by TKO.

            In the stoppage round, his opponent wasn't able to punch back and Sergiy was landing almost at will. He doesn't have one-punch KO power, but he's a very skilled boxer, his punches are quick and sharp.
            Was just about to say that. Definitely has pop but he knows he's not Klitschko.

            Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
            Judging by the Winky fight, I think PWill's style is all wrong for Dzin, though I would also favor him to beat any other 54 pounder besides Paul and Martinez.

            But since you bring him up, how do you think Floyd would fare against him, considering that both southpaws and people with good jabs have had some degree of success against him in the past?
            lol Dzinziruk isn't 37, is 6'0, has a better workrate, footwork, handspeed and counterpunching than Winky.

            I understand where your coming from with the style comparison but there are key differences.

            I really think PW would get lit up with Dzinziruk's counter punching if PW tries to simply overwhelm him with workrate like he usually does. and if PW slows it down and tries to think on it he'll get outboxed badly.

            I'm really not trying to make it sound like Dzinziruk is on another level, PW is World Class no doubt, i just think style wise Sergei has all the key strengths to exploit PW's flaws.

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            • Walt Liquor
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              #16
              Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
              Judging by the Winky fight, I think PWill's style is all wrong for Dzin, though I would also favor him to beat any other 54 pounder besides Paul and Martinez.

              But since you bring him up, how do you think Floyd would fare against him, considering that both southpaws and people with good jabs have had some degree of success against him in the past?
              first off. sergiy's fight tall, which means he will be at the end of pwill's punches, he has excellent timing and quick punches. all of which spells big trouble for pwill, who has gaps in his offense cuz his arms are so long and he's not that fast. serg has much better footwork than winky.

              i think floyd would be able to take away serg's jab, his main weapon. i don't know what his backup would be yet

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                #17
                Originally posted by Mikhnienko
                lol Dzinziruk isn't 37, is 6'0, has a better workrate, footwork, handspeed and counterpunching than Winky.

                I understand where your coming from with the style comparison but there are key differences.

                I really think PW would get lit up with Dzinziruk's counter punching if PW tries to simply overwhelm him with workrate like he usually does. and if PW slows it down and tries to think on it he'll get outboxed badly.

                I'm really not trying to make it sound like Dzinziruk is on another level, PW is World Class no doubt, i just think style wise Sergei has all the key strengths to exploit PW's flaws.
                I guess it all depends on whether Dzin can get Williams' respect the way Quintana did and Cintron did early. If he can't, I see him getting overwhelmed and waiting for a break in punching that never comes.

                He doesn't have the reach to mess with Williams at a distance, but that shouldn't bee too much of a problem since Paul usually doesn't fight tall likes to fight in close.

                I dunno, I'd like to see it and I'm glad he got a chance to knock the rust off. But at 34, he can't afford any more year and a half breaks in his career.

                Still waiting on Walt's opinion, but I actually think he presents a problem for Floyd. He's patient, isn't going to try and knock Floyd out, leaving himself wide open in the process, or making himself too tight like Mosley. Great jab, which Floyd, who relies a lot on reflexes, is susceptible to. And he's a southpaw, which tend to do well against the shell. I think he has the chin and defense to go 12 and I think he at the very least makes it interesting, if not downright scary, for *****s everywhere.

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                  #18
                  Margarito abuses him.

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                  • Walt Liquor
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
                    I guess it all depends on whether Dzin can get Williams' respect the way Quintana did and Cintron did early. If he can't, I see him getting overwhelmed and waiting for a break in punching that never comes.

                    He doesn't have the reach to mess with Williams at a distance, but that shouldn't bee too much of a problem since Paul usually doesn't fight tall likes to fight in close.

                    I dunno, I'd like to see it and I'm glad he got a chance to knock the rust off. But at 34, he can't afford any more year and a half breaks in his career.

                    Still waiting on Walt's opinion, but I actually think he presents a problem for Floyd. He's patient, isn't going to try and knock Floyd out, leaving himself wide open in the process, or making himself too tight like Mosley. Great jab, which Floyd, who relies a lot on reflexes, is susceptible to. And he's a southpaw, which tend to do well against the shell. I think he has the chin and defense to go 12 and I think he at the very least makes it interesting, if not downright scary, for *****s everywhere.
                    this. but i haven't seen him adjust before and we know that floyd can take away your greateast strength (floyd's greateast asset)

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                    • Walt Liquor
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Dick Buffman
                      Margarito abuses him.
                      i see a bet in our future if the fight is made good sir

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