Stop being a *****! Everyone else is fighting w/o OSTs.

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So, why did Pac and his team go into negotiations with them then? I mean, why not just file the lawsuit off tops?

Well asking for the test and essentially torpedoing the fight might have something to do with that. With that much money on the table everyone thought things were gonna get worked out. I thought the fight was a done deal and i'm sure pac's team felt that regardless of what was said they were gonna hammer out a deal, but when Floyds camp hardened their stance and continued spewing propaganda even after the fight fell apart that's when a line was crossed.

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look here clown, I am advocating for the fight to happen. But before this fight even came about I said that there should be random tests administered in boxing. Not only because I hate seeing boxers seriously injured, but i also think that with a high visibility fight like money and pac that it is a great venue to advocate this. There is only one mu****a that is causing this fight not to happen, and it is the mu****a that is looking like a guilty midget. I want this fight to happen soo badly so that all of the kno-nothing pac fans who just started watching boxing can go back to watching figure skating or whatever bull**** they were watching before they boarded the ******* express.

obviously I say that because it is guaranteed that pac is gonna get that ass whipped.

[War Dinamita]

Pac agreed and when he did, Floyd changed the rules again which hinted that Floyd didn't want the fight at all unless he gets psychological advantage. Pac ain't Floyd's *****.

Do I need to post the video of Roach saying they agree to OSDT and any additional test Floyd wants?

Pac's team agreed to Floyd's OSDT and later changed their mind when they found out Pac could be tested on fight week. Floyd gave them a 14 day cut off and they still bitched and complained about the testing.

Let's talk about how all the other fighters are willing to take the tests with no cut off date to fight Floyd. Why is Manny the only fighting bitching and crying about the tests?

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look here clown, I am advocating for the fight to happen. But before this fight even came about I said that there should be random tests administered in boxing. Not only because I hate seeing boxers seriously injured, but i also think that with a high visibility fight like money and pac that it is a great venue to advocate this. There is only one mu****a that is causing this fight not to happen, and it is the mu****a that is looking like a guilty midget. I want this fight to happen soo badly so that all of the kno-nothing pac fans who just started watching boxing can go back to watching figure skating or whatever bull**** they were watching before they boarded the ******* express.

The thing is it's not just ones fighters fault either, again stop being a fan for one second.


This has and always will be about "2" men with huge ego's and you can spin it both ways. Pac can just take the test or Floyd can just drop his request.

Seriously please stop acting like Pac is the only one who can make the fight happen becasue if Floyd dropped his request for blood tests tomarrow would the fight happen?


Yes!!!

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Well asking for the test and essentially torpedoing the fight might have something to do with that. With that much money on the table everyone thought things were gonna get worked out. I thought the fight was a done deal and i'm sure pac's team felt that regardless of what was said they were gonna hammer out a deal, but when Floyds camp hardened their stance and continued spewing propaganda even after the fight fell apart that's when a line was crossed.

Floyd' stance was that of the agency doing the testing, USADA, testing up until the event. Manny claimed that he would be tested just not the DAY of the fight because it "weakens" him. Then went on to say he would only let them take blood 3 times, before the press tour, middle of camp and after the fight (this is supposed to be RANDOM testing). Then asked for a MONTH cutoff with no blood testing. Let's be real here.

[War Dinamita]

Your right there isn't anything wrong with him asking for it. Whats wrong is in the way Floyd asked for it. Floyds camp started their smear campaign before Pac had even fought Cotto and essentially used the tactic to try and bully pac into taking the test.


If your intentions are well and good and your just trying to protect yourself then make that case when asking for the test, but when Floyds camp puts af ull frontal assault on the guy character with no proof and then they ask for the test it seems to me that Floyd and his camp had this all planned out from the begining.


Floyd could of asked for it, made his case about protecting himself, and i would have agreed with him, but instead he chose the low road and that pretty much convinced me that this was nothing more than a dog an pony show being put on by the master of showmanship.

Good post.

I have no problem with his asking for additional tests, but he didn't have to ruin Pac's reputation. I don't think Manny is taking PEDs.

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The thing is it's not just ones fighters fault either, again stop being a fan for one second.


This has and always will be about "2" men with huge ego's and you can spin it both ways. Pac can just take the test or Floyd can just drop his request.

Seriously please stop acting like Pac is the only one who can make the fight happen becasue if Floyd dropped his request for blood tests tomarrow would the fight happen?


Yes!!!

No. its about 2 men who are making request, but about 1 man who refused a request, and another man who accepted all requests made by the other. I know a lying ass mu****a when I see one, and pac is him. I was a huge fan of both. Until I saw what happend. I looked at this objectively and I see what is really going on.

[HyperUppercut]

Good post.

I have no problem with his asking for additional tests, but he didn't have to ruin Pac's reputation. I don't think Manny is taking PEDs.

get the hell out of here. Pacs reputation could be cleared by him taking the tests. Pac's reputation wasn't ruined until he made the bull**** excuses up. Hell, his reputation wouldnt even be ruined if he just said no because thats not the rules. But he decided to start lying and making stuff up. Pac ruined his own reputation, have you even been following whats going on?

[War Dinamita]

How are you going to demand another boxer to pay a 10 million fine for every pounds he comes over the limit when you don't agree to his request?

[War Dinamita]

get the hell out of here. Pacs reputation could be cleared by him taking the tests. Pac's reputation wasn't ruined until he made the bull**** excuses up. Hell, his reputation wouldnt even be ruined if he just said no because thats not the rules. But he decided to start lying and making stuff up. Pac ruined his own reputation, have you even been following whats going on?

You don't accuse someone of cheating without any proof. The damage was already done even if Pac takes the tests because people on here and fans all over the world think he's a cheater.