Was Kermit Cintron's Ring Exit Accidental Or Intentional? (HD Video)

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  • el malo
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    #41
    Originally posted by crillz
    clearly an accident, he was already highly off balance when he took that 2nd step, he was even leaning a bit forward before fully taking that 2nd step. honestly Paul ain't little if he swings you like that you gonna move and possibly lose balance, it clearly happened to Kermit. you know whats funny, Paul Williams Adviser Al Haymon is in HBO's back pocket, this fight ends and lets say Kermit won, do you think they will be saying that HBO wont buy the rematch? NOPE they would sell that **** but since he won and had a hard time doing his adviser doesn't support a rematch and HBO doesn't buy the event, these men aren't ****** they making him out to be like the next Tommy Hearns you really think they want to risk losing the spot light on Williams over Cintron? Williams just says "yes" to everything his people tell him so I don't expect him to know anything nor do I suspect him of any foul play but his people? they some slick match making mother****ers..

    was it an accident? my answer is yes, that's my opinion so ima stick with that but I also think it's bull**** that Kermit boxes his socks off for 3 rounds they give the majority of to Williams when he wasn't nearly as damaging to his opponent and then rejects talks of a rematch like nobody knows who and what Al Haymon is to HBO. the rematch of this fight made more sense then the first fight ever happening in the beginning because he we saw Cintron take a ****ty loss after a awesome performance and is being denied a rematch and to me that is foul especially when Kermit said he would do it at 154 or even 147 which is something no one else will want to do and that's face him at 147


    cosign, this is why i said earlier that hbo doesnt want another right hand from cintron to land on pwill's chin. not cuz cintron would beat him but cuz the rematch obviously aint happening cuz hbo and al haymon dont want the risk. watch hbo continue with the "most feared man in boxing" bull****

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    • Carpe Diem
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      #42
      LMAO @ 0:48...Paul Williams legs aren't that strong...

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        #43
        He purposely jumped out of the ring to end that boring farce of a fight.

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          #44
          Originally posted by crillz
          clearly an accident, he was already highly off balance when he took that 2nd step, he was even leaning a bit forward before fully taking that 2nd step. honestly Paul ain't little if he swings you like that you gonna move and possibly lose balance, it clearly happened to Kermit. you know whats funny, Paul Williams Adviser Al Haymon is in HBO's back pocket, this fight ends and lets say Kermit won, do you think they will be saying that HBO wont buy the rematch? NOPE they would sell that **** but since he won and had a hard time doing his adviser doesn't support a rematch and HBO doesn't buy the event, these men aren't ****** they making him out to be like the next Tommy Hearns you really think they want to risk losing the spot light on Williams over Cintron? Williams just says "yes" to everything his people tell him so I don't expect him to know anything nor do I suspect him of any foul play but his people? they some slick match making mother****ers..

          was it an accident? my answer is yes, that's my opinion so ima stick with that but I also think it's bull**** that Kermit boxes his socks off for 3 rounds they give the majority of to Williams when he wasn't nearly as damaging to his opponent and then rejects talks of a rematch like nobody knows who and what Al Haymon is to HBO. the rematch of this fight made more sense then the first fight ever happening in the beginning because he we saw Cintron take a ****ty loss after a awesome performance and is being denied a rematch and to me that is foul especially when Kermit said he would do it at 154 or even 147 which is something no one else will want to do and that's face him at 147
          The decision in favor of Williams is highly debatable imo. There is a strong case for Cintron being ahead in the fight at that point. Whether he would have won the fight if it had continued as normal is again a debatable issue because Williams appeared to be pressing the action in the 4th, although Cintron also landed some excellent counters. It's a shame it didn't continue man, it was just getting interesting.

          I agree the ring exit appears most likely to be entirely accidental, what about the aftermath? Do you think Cintron was genuinely injured, stunned or winded? Or, you think he was over-dramatizing the situation?

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          • xcaret v3
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            #45
            Originally posted by crillz
            remember Domo he doesn't have to hit his head to have the wind knocked out of him, that was his whol body crashing down front flip style with no balance or control, the impact of the fall would be enough to knock the wind out of him. and there was people telling him to remain still the whole time so he listened
            even if he only had his wind knocked out of him, he still told the doctor he didnt want to continue...dont fighters that receive low blows continue fighting like real men? come on now.

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              #46
              It looked like an accident to me.

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              • Iceta Lives
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                #47
                And to make matters worse on this forum they are calling this fight a robbery when they both landed practcally the same amount of punches and each judge had Cintron and Williams winning every round. People see different things. Deal with it.

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                • el malo
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                  #48
                  nobody won this fight imo, it needs to happen again. how can either guy have possibly won that fight after only 3 rounds? its more pathetic that there isnt a rematch being made at this point.

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                    #49
                    Well so far most people think it was accidental, including me, but the only thing I care about in this fight was the lame ass decision.

                    Cintron should have won that, or at least have the decision changed to a no decision.

                    To me Paul Williams is like Christian Mijares, he will keep getting Split Decisions, and will biasedly be ranked high in the P4P rankings until some armenian fighter comes and breaks his balls.

                    Then he will start losing to unknown venezuelans.

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                    • Libido Sanchez
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                      #50
                      I think watching it in slo-motion is what throws people off.

                      In real time, **** happened fast and Cintron was off balance with all kinds of momentum heading towards the ropes. Who knows if even had time to react, but that "leap" could have happened just trying to deal with the ropes and the fact he's flying out the ring. By jumping maybe he was able to position himself in an angle that helped him fly out the ring better without getting that much damage (which is what seemed to happen).

                      In slo-mo, because it's simply happening slower, it can appear that he had all the time in the world to decide to jump out of the ring.

                      It was an accident. The real argument is whether he faked the severity of his injury (or getting the wind knocked out of him) or the doctor forced him down and didn't let him get back up.

                      To me, given his shaky bizzaro past, Cintron acted his way out of the fight possibly because he thought he was ahead on the cards and would win and/or thought that there might be a rematch and thus get another payday. The doctor not letting him continue would mean, IMO, that he didn't want to risk an injured fighter back in the ring in fear of a lawsuit/damage to his rep or that he was somehow on Williams' side (real conspiracy, if you ask me, but this is boxing). Or, the doctor is telling the truth and he asked Cintron twice if he could continue and Cintron gave him indication that he couldn't. That sounds more realistic, I think.

                      But it seems that Cintron laid there like he was dead, complained about being hurt, and then started arguing that he could continue... once he was on the stretcher... a little too late.
                      Last edited by Libido Sanchez; 05-14-2010, 08:44 PM. Reason: typo

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