Comments Thread For: Roach: Malignaggi Can F**k Himself, My Guys Are Clean

[Sugar Q]

Yes it is floyd's personal right. My problem is with Floyd's camp going on a complete smearing campaign against Pac before and during the time that floyd asked for the tests. And his fans instead of showing some class, they jumped right along with them. I mean what kind of crap is that? They were trying to bully Pac into the tests. And that ain't right!

It's too simple to clear up for all the controversy if Manny was clean. Somebody calls you on something you step up and prove them wrong. It would make them look bad and would've been a dead issue but lame ass excuse after lame ass excuse. Nobodies ****** my dude except for the one that doesn't suspect anything. This is far more important than any other sport. How can a man refuse random blood testing in a blood sport?

[pistol whip]

So you're saying that if Freddie knows his fighter is roiding he shouldn't say anything because it might get him fired or hurt the fighters feelings.

Exactly my point. His doing nothing makes him complicit

You keep putting words in my mouth knowing and suspecting are two diffrent things. And yes if your trainer accuses you of being on roids and that trainer is 100% wrong then yes it can be very damaging and also soils that trainers reputation.


I mean seriously name a trainer that goes around doing that to his fighters? name one trainer that has said "I wont work with this fighter because I suspect he's using steroids".


You can't sit here and hold Roach to higher standards especially when he like 90% of all the trainers out there don't have the knowledge to even know what to look for. *** James Tony's physician even stated that he was the one that administered the medication that made Tony test positive for steroids against Ruiz.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2005-05-11-toney-steroids_x.htm

[IMDAZED]

You keep putting words in my mouth knowing and suspecting are two diffrent things. And yes if your trainer accuses you of being on roids and that trainer is 100% wrong then yes it can be very damaging and also soils that trainers reputation.


I mean seriously name a trainer that goes around doing that to his fighters? name one trainer that has said "I wont work with this fighter because I suspect he's using steroids".


You can't sit here and hold Roach to higher standards especially when he like 90% of all the trainers out there don't have the knowledge to even know what to look for. *** James Tony's physician even stated that he was the one that administered the medication that made Tony test positive for steroids against Ruiz.


http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxin...steroids_x.htm

Freddie Roach couldn't even bring himself to say that he didn't know. And he continued to work with him even after the guy was caught. Are you seriously assuming Roach didn't know James was still juicing? So heavily that he got caught AGAIN?

Let's be real here.

The bottom line is that Roach knew and didn't say anything. That's all we have to work with here.

[Da Hammer]

It's too simple to clear up for all the controversy if Manny was clean. Somebody calls you on something you step up and prove them wrong. It would make them look bad and would've been a dead issue but lame ass excuse after lame ass excuse. Nobodies ****** my dude except for the one that doesn't suspect anything. This is far more important than any other sport. How can a man refuse random blood testing in a blood sport?

Or you don't do it because you have nothing to prove to somebody that doesn't run the sport. And if blood testing was so important, why didn't floyd ask for it when he cameback to fight marquez?

[Sugar Q]

You keep putting words in my mouth knowing and suspecting are two diffrent things. And yes if your trainer accuses you of being on roids and that trainer is 100% wrong then yes it can be very damaging and also soils that trainers reputation.


I mean seriously name a trainer that goes around doing that to his fighters? name one trainer that has said "I wont work with this fighter because I suspect he's using steroids".


You can't sit here and hold Roach to higher standards especially when he like 90% of all the trainers out there don't have the knowledge to even know what to look for. *** James Tony's physician even stated that he was the one that administered the medication that made Tony test positive for steroids against Ruiz.


http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxin...steroids_x.htm

Money is the root of all evil and a person will do some f'd up **** for fame and fortune. You need to ask yourself as a fan of Manny's. Why am I so against this guy coming clean. This isn't hitting a ball this is a very tough sport. Many have died in the ring. No man should have any added advantage.

[pistol whip]

Freddie Roach couldn't even bring himself to say that he didn't know. And he continued to work with him even after the guy was caught. Are you seriously assuming Roach didn't know James was still juicing? So heavily that he got caught AGAIN?

Let's be real here.

The bottom line is that Roach knew and didn't say anything. That's all we have to work with here.

Again it's all assumption you spin his comments one way I spin them another way.

[IMDAZED]

Again it's all assumption you spin his comments one way I spin them another way.

What is there to spin? He said that he couldn't say he didn't know. Was that after the first time James tested positive or the second? I mean, we're not dumb over here. It is what it is.

[Sugar Q]

Or you don't do it because you have nothing to prove to somebody that doesn't run the sport. And if blood testing was so important, why didn't floyd ask for it when he cameback to fight marquez?

Like my signature reads:

[Bushidō]

ahha sounds like Khan fired some shots at Pacquiao

[Nuurzhaelan]

[b]Refusing to submit to blood testing is his personal right especially when it's another boxer that is requesting them.[/b

Fair enough.

You won't mind if we have our opinions then, now that the question has been asked (does Manny use PEDs) and since he 'doth protest too much.'