goodbye roy...it's been great

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  • cvt
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    #1

    goodbye roy...it's been great

    i'm a roy jones fan. i followed him from his days of middleweight to present. many people called his skills "smoke and mirrors" but to people who have actually been in the ring like i have...they know that he had a god given talent. he broke the rules...and he was respected and dis-respected because of it. now before you go on to "hey it's another roy-nutthugger" let me voice out that i never believed roy was invincible and that the smothering tactics used by glen johnson was just the thing to beat RJ.

    i feel his best days were at super middleweight. i marveled at this person who threw lightning fast hooks at all angles and had the power to keep people at bay. he had the timing to beat people to the punch with the swagger to go along with it. he knew when to draw an opponent in and when to press. and i often watched and imitated him not by his punching technique but how he was able to use timing and distance (something many amatuers don't spend a lot of time on) to give himself punching room while making an "escape route" so that he could just slipp away untouched. if you watch his old tapes his foot work is a masterpiece. and any damn fighter, no matter how anti-roy they are, will look at it and even admit "damn...that was smooth".

    his knockout loss to glencoffe johnson proved something that i knew awhile ago. even back to the day when he beat virgil hill with that wicked body shot.....roy has no hunger. it's not in his eyes anymore. he believed the hype. he believed all that superman bull****...and when you put yourself in a pedestal so high...people can tip it over and you come crashing down. there is nothing spectacular about johnson...or even tarver for that matter. the roy jones of the early and mid 90s would have easily out pointed both. but alas 25 years of ring wear has taken it's toll...hanging on the ropes will only get you so far roy....

    as for a come back. please roy...just bow out. you have nothing left to prove. not from internet posters, the larry merchants, the media, nobody. you proved it to us, the fighters...the ones who know the on-goings in the ring. things that are missed when you only view it from ringside or the television. you got our respect...we don't need another casualty in boxing, especially for one who has given a lot to the sport.
  • Ranger2408
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    #2
    Well said man, i have only recently came into boxing as a fan but man i marvel at jones and his skills, he did have something special.
    No matter what anyone says on this site or anywhere he was a great, no doubt about it.

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    • nohero
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      #3
      I'd still like to see him beat Tarver and Johnson before he retires... leave nothing behind.

      If he goes on another crusade at Heavyweight then he may be too far gone by then to recover with dignity... he's close to that already.

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      • jack_the_rippuh
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        #4
        So do you all still believe what he said on how he's still the greatest fighter in the world?

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        • jabsRstiff
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          #5
          Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
          So do you all still believe what he said on how he's still the greatest fighter in the world?

          After two straight horrific KO losses, nobody but a nutlicker would think that.

          The guy is an all-time great. His fans & he need to accept that doesn't mean he can hang with the elite, TODAY.
          It's over for him, at that level.

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          • Boxerdog
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            #6
            He beat every garbage man and cab driver he ever faced and not only BEAT them but also did some really cutesy pie **** while doing it. It shouldn't at all dim his light that when HBO forced him to fight a real challenger, he was exposed for the charlatan we all now know.
            Nope, he is just super-duper AND one of the major musical talents of our time as well!
            What a guy!

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            • restless_438
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              #7
              I know if his minds right, he could beat both Tarver and Johnson if he's got the will. But his mental state of mind is KEY here. If he could have the drive, he could do it. Don't completely count him out yet, the man only has 3 losses! (2 really)

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              • Neuraxis
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                #8
                What ever happened to fighting the winner of this?

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                • jabsRstiff
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Neuraxis
                  What ever happened to fighting the winner of this?


                  Nobody was interested.

                  Get outta here with Michael Nunn.

                  Nunn couldn't even beat Frankie Liles.

                  If you guys would understand timelines, you'd all realize at no point was Michael Nunn a deserving challenger to Roy Jones.

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                  • Neuraxis
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                    #10
                    You're right Nunn lost in that fight to Rocchigiani. Yet Roy didn't fight him either. Instead he figured wouldn't it be easier if the WBC took the belt away from Rocchigiani and gave it me.

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