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  • DE100
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    #21
    Originally posted by GroundSt.Pound
    ****ting on one of your Hall of Famers? Low, man. Low
    No ****ting on this dumb ass fight. Which is just a Ploy to pull in some more PPV numbers.

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    • TheNegation
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      #22
      Originally posted by DE100
      No ****ting on this dumb ass fight. Which is just a Ploy to pull in some more PPV numbers.
      Yeah. Kinda like Jones/Hopkins 2 LOL

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        #23
        Originally posted by GroundSt.Pound
        Yeah. Kinda like Jones/Hopkins 2 LOL
        No one in their right mind thought that dumbass match would sell either... dont know whats your point, The two fights are not similar at all.

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          #24
          Originally posted by DE100
          No one in their right mind thought that dumbass match would sell either... dont know whats your point, The two fights are not similar at all.
          How is it not?

          Jones and Hopkins are both old and washed up (though you could make an argument for Hopkins

          -They are both future Hall of Famers

          -The fight was $50

          -The fight was ****** and pointless, it ****** in 1993 and guess what? 17 years wasn't going to change that.



          Either way, while the fight with Randy and Toney may be ****** but it will sell and Toney will get a decent pay day for his first MMA fight and he'll be taken seriously. While you and most of the boxing world are basically shunning him away.

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            #25
            Originally posted by GroundSt.Pound
            How is it not?

            Jones and Hopkins are both old and washed up (though you could make an argument for Hopkins

            -They are both future Hall of Famers

            -The fight was $50

            -The fight was ****** and pointless, it ****** in 1993 and guess what? 17 years wasn't going to change that.
            And you forgot one thing THEY ARE BOTH BOXERS. The fight was all those things, but it was between boxers.



            Either way, while the fight with Randy and Toney may be ****** but it will sell and Toney will get a decent pay day for his first MMA fight and he'll be taken seriously. While you and most of the boxing world are basically shunning him away.
            Thats all I need to know... Yes it very ****** that a Old, fat, past Prime, BOXER is getting a PPV Match in his First MMA fight against one of its Legends.
            Last edited by DE100; 05-13-2010, 02:29 AM.

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            • cameronpaul
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              #26
              lol cant wait till an "old, fat, out of prime" toney whoops the ass off couture, my prediction is about 15-30 seconds into round one toney will persuade randys jaw to try to kiss itself in the back of the head.

              what people dont seem to realise is that even a james toney that is past him prime and arguably over weight is still about 2 or 3 leauges a better fighter than the mma chumps. for the first time in ufc history the audience is going to see how to properly fight.

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                #27
                Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
                I've never really watched MMA...but people who do tell me Randy has a good stand up game? I would have to SERIOUSLY doubt he wil try that for more than a few seconds though...right?
                While Randy has trained with some real notable strikers (Bas Rutten, Ray Sefo), his striking is pretty sub par in of itself. It's great against other sub par efforts, but if he's up against someone who has more advanced striking and make it work in the context of MMA, nine out of ten times, he's going to get shut down. His fight with Antonio Rodrigo Nogueria is a good example. He lost that match by getting totally outboxed by Nog to a unanimous decision.



                The positive in his striking is that he's adopted a dirty boxing approach which is very comfortable to him. It allows him to find ways to get as close as possible to his opponent and fluidly switch between striking and grappling at will.

                Couture is a master strategist, that's what makes him a name. His Olympic grappling and ability to stick or adapt to a game plan.

                Will he strike with Toney? No, not really. If I were to take a guess, the game plan will probably be Randy herding Toney to the edges while getting him to keep his arms up. Once Toney's at a comfortable distance, Randy will pin him to the cage and toss him down to the mat. Depending what Randy feels like, he'll either ground and pound Toney or grind him up for three rounds and make Toney burn out.

                It doesn't help matters either with Toney training with Juanito Ibarra, a man who has little grappling experience.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by cameronpaul
                  lol cant wait till an "old, fat, out of prime" toney whoops the ass off couture, my prediction is about 15-30 seconds into round one toney will persuade randys jaw to try to kiss itself in the back of the head.

                  what people dont seem to realise is that even a james toney that is past him prime and arguably over weight is still about 2 or 3 leauges a better fighter than the mma chumps. for the first time in ufc history the audience is going to see how to properly fight.
                  Without lower body movement and inflexibility.

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                    #29
                    Hey Iceman, if you're interested and you have some change lying around, the Sh1ne promotion is putting on it's first PPV this Saturday. They've got a good MMA card with the headline match being between Ricardo Mayorga and Din Thomas.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by DLT
                      Yo John, you my man & all but I made a thread after the Floyd-Mosley fight about how I was a little dissapointed in alot of the boxing media and you were one of the guys I mentioned. Ill speak about it if you want to
                      Yea, man, I would love to hear any beefs or critiquing...

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