I'm sick and tired of people not giving due respect to Pacman

[Spoon23]

No just no.

Get informed about the subject then return.

If ped isn't still good at being detected. As evidence that only one got caught in the olympics then why not let pac and mayweather take all the peds that they canr can take that is undetectable at the moment and see who wins. In other words if both are in steriods the better skillful man will still win. Same a s baseball and football, theirs a lot of ped users but the talented player will always come up on top. (note in baseball and NFL a lot are taking roids but not all who use them are equal.The talented and skillfull one will always prevail. That is Why I believe Floyd Xyclocain gayweather is just scared to fight a midget who is obviously smaller than he is in the first place. ( and as we all know mixed martial arts like UFC fighters are rampant users of peds, I don't see anyone complaining about it. It's skills that wins fights!) For those who think UFC is clean your ****** lol

In other words a lot of designer drugs aren't detectable in the moment. If you have been reading the OSADA had to keep Mayweather and Mosely's blood for years so that if there is a better test for a ped they will come back for it.

Knowing that there are a lot of undetectable peds then why go through it in the first place Floyd and Pac can cheat if they really want to. Coz we all know testing is playing catchup for new advanced PED'S.

[SmoothMon]

Boxing has nothing to do with being ripped... Pac got his respect from me long ago. I think he's a great fighter. I also think if u ask for 10 mil a lb, you should take the test. They should have made this fight happen in march when they had the chance. They walk away thinking Floyd would never fight mosley, he does and now they're like dogs in heat for that pay day. I understand boxing in and out of the ring, Top Rank is some bull****. Its a reason why Pac fought everyone Floyd fought, but didn't fight Mosley..yet. It was a strategy for Pac to take Floyds place after his retirement and it worked. That's why people argue over who is the best now.

[viperz007]

Boxing has nothing to do with being ripped... Pac got his respect from me long ago. I think he's a great fighter. I also think if u ask for 10 mil a lb, you should take the test. They should have made this fight happen in march when they had the chance. They walk away thinking Floyd would never fight mosley, he does and now they're like dogs in heat for that pay day. I understand boxing in and out of the ring, Top Rank is some bull****. Its a reason why Pac fought everyone Floyd fought, but didn't fight Mosley..yet. It was a strategy for Pac to take Floyds place after his retirement and it worked. That's why people argue over who is the best now.

by the way did mayweather fought cotto, or clottey?
manny is following the path to greatness beating the best out there that people say is the best, without any whines or yap yap...not following floyds path to cherry land, cherry picking...
and by the way when the negotiations fell through with pac-may shane was on a contract with berto if he hadnt he would have been pacs opponent..

[damned1974]

1. I have no doubt that he has taken tests in the past, That is clear. What I do object to is his refusal of the random blood and urine tests. The blood tests take a tablespoon of blood out of your body, Mosley had no problem doing it. I don't see why Pacquiao would either, As you pointed out Pacquiao had his blood taken before the Hatton and Clottey fights meaning that he has no problems having his blood taken, only on a RANDOM date which seems suspiscous to me. Also I have to object to you saying he only lost to Morales because of the cut, Morales just totally outboxed him. Obviously the cut didnt help but that happens in boxing. You can't say "I lost because I got cut" no he lost because he allowed himself to get hit so much that he got cut. Morales was also outboxing Pacquiao for parts of the rematch before his legs gave out on him. You make it seem like the 2nd Morales fight was a cakewalk for Pacquiao. Which is not the case at all, Morales was holding his own before his drained body gave out on him.

2. Team Mayweather never made any allegations towards Pacquiao. The only "allegation's" are really assumptions. Most people think that when a guy refuses a $60 million dollar drug tests that something is up. I mean you wouldnt just do that for no reason. People have a right to be suspiscious and if Pacquiao wants to change that he should take the test. He doesnt have a leg to stand on by taking this to court. And even if he did he's trying to sue Oscar De La Hoya who has about 10 times as much cash as he does. Pacquiao's lawsuit is ****** and it makes him even less credible. He had no reason to take it to court. The doubts would just go away if he took the test. Why spend millions of dollars to try and remove doubt when you could do it for free? It makes no sense

3. Requesting olympic blood and urine tests does not make anyone a coward. Mayweather just wants an even playing field, Mosley took the tests. I don't see why Pacquiao can't. Pacquiao claims to be the "peoples champ" yet he wont take a random drug test? Im sure his fans would want him to take the test and prove he is clean and fight Mayweather aswell. Like you said Floyd is "Money Mayweather" he doesnt care too much about whether he fights Pacquiao or not. Floyd is such a big draw in the sport that he will make $30 million plus whoever he fights. Pacquiao says over and over he wants to fight Mayweather and knock him out but he won't take a drugs test and receive millions of dollars win or lose? Something is up there. If he REALLY wanted Mayweather wouldnt he just agree to his demands?

4. Your logic about Mayweather "always fighting smaller men" is also heavily flawed. As far as I can remember the only smaller men he fought were Hatton and Marquez. And Hatton is naturally bigger even if he is one inch shorter. Aside from that Floyd has fought much bigger opponents such as Oscar at 154, Diego Corrales and Genaro Hernandez at 130 and Carlos Baldomir and Shane Mosley at Welterweight. Pacquiao outweighs almost all of his opponents come fight night and they are usually subjected to weight penalties also. This proves my logic that Mayweather fights people at the official weight classes. If you just go back and do your homework you will see....

Carlos Baldomir - Undisputed Welterweight champion/Hadnt lost in 9 years
Shane Mosley - Rated as the #1 Welterweight
Genaro Hernandez - The man to beat at 130

Compare that with the guy's that Pacquiao has fought...
Cotto, Hatton, De La Hoya, Morales - All coming off losses and/or on weight penalties. Floyd fought the best fighters at the official weight classes. Pacquiao did not do this. Im sorry but your logic is very flawed and im not suprised that you didnt address my point about Pacquiao cheating on his wife and kids.

I would also add that Floyd had fought undefeated fighters in their prime.Manny has yet to do this.In fact,Manny's last 5 opponents never were a threat anyways...just look at their (Manny's previous 5 opponents) previous 6 fights and notice their ko ratio-it was not close to being a threat.

When you combine their ko ratios to their styles,they were tailor made for Manny-4 out of 5 were left hand dominant, with little defense,fight coming forward and had no decent right hand-the typical weapon for handling a southpaw. Add to this that most were coming off of devestating and career changing losses and at the end of their careers, it only looks worst.People can say the 1-2 pounds Cotto had to shed means nothing,but if that is the case,why have it in the first place???? It meant an advantage,no matter how little it may seem...all these combined criteria points ensured Manny would have the best chance possible of fighting an opponent that would have as little chance of success as possible.

Also,if people want to discredit Floyd's win against Shane- they need to consider that he ko'd Margarito-the same man who is "on reserve" to fight Manny next...funny how Manny would get credit for fighting Tony,but Floyd gets bashed for beating Shane.

Floyd just beat the man,who beat the man,who beat the man,and in turn-beat the man for the belt.When is the last time Manny has done this?

[Bee Keepz]

Where have you been?

Steroid accusations are about as good as it gets, good enough for Snr to get spooked and Jnr to duck.

[damned1974]

by the way did mayweather fought cotto, or clottey?
manny is following the path to greatness beating the best out there that people say is the best, without any whines or yap yap...not following floyds path to cherry land, cherry picking...
and by the way when the negotiations fell through with pac-may shane was on a contract with berto if he hadnt he would have been pacs opponent..

The last time I checked-not one single person wanted the Clottey fight-even the die-hard Pac fans were quiet the week leading up to that fight.

Why don't you enlighten me and tell me how "dangerous" Manny's last 5 opponents were-please answer-
1-What was their ko ratio 6 fights prior to their fights with Manny.
2-How many of these guys were undefeated and prime?
3-How many had to shed weight or had problems with weight?
4-How many have had losses-by ko previous to their fights with Manny?
5-Why take 1-2 pounds off of Cotto if it wouldn't advantage Manny?????

Do you know what a cherry picker even is? If you do,then you cannot say (with a straight face) that Manny is not one.He doesn't fight the best-you are ignorantly buying into their hype.

The general consensus with Floyd was that he should fight Shane if Manny didn't want the fight...he fulfilled that demand from the fans-even though most of you people were saying "Floyd would never,etc".
Yup,Shane Mosely-the man that Freddie kept Manny as far as possible from-even though Shane begged them 2 times for a fight,even saying he would shrink down to 140....Pac and co still wanted no part.

[Spoon23]

Pac's 7 division championships are worth about as much as delahoja's so called 10 division championships. You claim to be the best? Then fight the best!!!! Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the BEST!!! Manny wants a fine of 1 million dollars for every pound that Floyd is overweight. And Floyd wants Manny to test clean!!! Lets make the ****en fight already and stop all this bull****!!!!!!!

Huh? DLH only has 6 divisions not 10 lol Pac has 7 divisions. Simply the only one who has done it =)

[flexxx145]

The last time I checked-not one single person wanted the Clottey fight-even the die-hard Pac fans were quiet the week leading up to that fight.

Why don't you enlighten me and tell me how "dangerous" Manny's last 5 opponents were-please answer-
1-What was their ko ratio 6 fights prior to their fights with Manny.
2-How many of these guys were undefeated and prime?
3-How many had to shed weight or had problems with weight?
4-How many have had losses-by ko previous to their fights with Manny?
5-Why take 1-2 pounds off of Cotto if it wouldn't advantage Manny?????

Do you know what a cherry picker even is? If you do,then you cannot say (with a straight face) that Manny is not one.He doesn't fight the best-you are ignorantly buying into their hype.

The general consensus with Floyd was that he should fight Shane if Manny didn't want the fight...he fulfilled that demand from the fans-even though most of you people were saying "Floyd would never,etc".
Yup,Shane Mosely-the man that Freddie kept Manny as far as possible from-even though Shane begged them 2 times for a fight,even saying he would shrink down to 140....Pac and co still wanted no part.

Game over you pwned that dude!

[STRUGG]

pac gets discredited because of his achievement................floy gets dissed because of his ducking...................................but both are ATG

[pasawayako]

That's the only thing they could do to pac, because in reality pac will always be better than floyd and will always be higher in an atg rankings. Sorry *****s i know you're trying so hard to discredit pac in every possible way just to put floyd on above him but that will happen only in your fantasy world.