With Tarver Im still in the show me something camp.
Unfortunately i think his most compelling fight is against the now heavyweight James Tony.
SideNote What the hell happened to the Cruiserweight division when guys like Evander Holyfield patrolled the scene.
I think its due to money. Guys figure move just a little bit more up, then they can fight for big money at heavyweight. I think they should raise the weight limit for crusierweight. Give these 6'6' Behemoths the heavyweight division alone.
Crusier isn't that bad these days, the Mormeck - Braithwaite fight was actually quite good until Mormeck started taking rounds off. It was more entertaining probably then any heavyweight fight I've seen this year, possibly with the exception of Barrett - Beck.
But your reason for why guys don't hang around the division is spot-on.
I dont think Danny Williams was ever considered good. Just beat an old Tyson thats how i think most people saw it.
Danny Williams was a bigger prospect than Frank Bruno and Lennox Lewis, believe it or not. He was awesome when he was tearing through the ranks in the 90's, awesome on occasions in the amateurs and a world-beater in the gym. But he lost his head about 5 years ago.
It's hard to answer this question because a fighter's fans are automatically going to hype him up more than he probably deserves. It's like with Hopkins, he's obviously starting to fade a bit but few people that like him are going to come right out and say it.
I could list a number of fighters that I am both a fan of and not a fan of that get too much credit sometimes: Hopkins, Gatti, Hatton, Judah, Margartio, Pacquiao, the Klitschkos, etc. But a lot of the fans of each of these fighters are also aware of their shortcomings, so you can't come right out and say that any one of them in universally overrated.
most overrated is probably glen johnson or ricky hatton if you want to talk about beating an aging great tszyu is that if he beats another top 140 he will have my respect. not that that matters to him
I think Tarver and Johnson are over-rated. Tarver may be the same age as Roy, but Roys has been fighting alot longer. Roy was winning the two fights when he got KO'd. I wasn't impressed with either fighter in the Johnson Tarver rematch. Johnson walk straight in while not punching! Tarver should have been able to KO his ass. Plus Tarver takes too much time off in the ring. Tarver will not last at the top.
How can Tarver be over rated when every time he beats someone, You all try to make it less meaningful. Beating an aged RJJ? These 2 are the same age.
Same age? So what? Tarver hasn't had as many fights as Jones, and debuted eight years after Jones did. Age means nothing. Tarver's a black piece of ****.
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