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  • !! Mr. Soprano
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    #11
    Originally posted by LuKahnLi
    Alot of upsets and shakeups within the top 5. So, who do you list as your top 10 lb 4 lb?

    I don't list guys coming off losses in the top 10. That is my rule.

    1 - Floyd Mayweather
    2 - Bernard Hopkins
    3 - Diego Corrales
    4 - Marco Antonio Barrera
    5 - James Toney (He beat John Ruiz no 2 ways about it)
    6 - Winky Wright
    7 - Erik Morales
    8 - Antonio Tarver
    9 - Ricky Hatton
    10 - Rafael Marquez
    3 - Diego Corrales
    5 - James Toney

    What are you smoking?

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    • oldgringo
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      #12
      You could actually make arguments for those positions....

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      • SonnyG8R
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        #13
        1. Bernard Hopkins
        2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
        3. Ronald "Winky" Wright
        4. Marco Antonio Barrera
        5. Erik Morales
        6. Diego Corrales
        7. Juan Manuel Marquez
        8. Zab Judah
        9. Ricky Hatton
        10. Manny Pacquiao

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        • LuKahnLi
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          #14
          Originally posted by Gladiator
          3 - Diego Corrales
          5 - James Toney

          What are you smoking?
          Corrales -
          Last 3
          W12 Casamayor, KO10 Freitas, KO10 Castillo.

          Toney -
          W12 Jirov, TKO10 Holyfield, UD12 Booker, UD12 Ruiz.

          Last 3 wins were dominant wins over heavyweights when Toney's prime weight was 160. He keeps winning. I feel he deserves it.

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          • Truth
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            #15
            I think Judah should be in the top 10 even if its 10...

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            • SonnyG8R
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              #16
              If ODLH is still considered an "active" or "current" boxer he has to be at least top 20.

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              • !! Mr. Soprano
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                #17
                Originally posted by LuKahnLi
                Corrales -
                Last 3
                W12 Casamayor, KO10 Freitas, KO10 Castillo.

                Toney -
                W12 Jirov, TKO10 Holyfield, UD12 Booker, UD12 Ruiz.

                Last 3 wins were dominant wins over heavyweights when Toney's prime weight was 160. He keeps winning. I feel he deserves it.
                Come on man, Corrales ranked at #3
                He was knocked down how many times? And his win was so controversial..
                Also someone who lost by a KO 4 fights ago and another 5 fights before that.
                Fine top 10 but not ranked as #3

                Toney - Any of those were even close to be anywhere on top 10 P4P when Toney beat them? (Jirov Holyfield, Booker)
                Ruiz was a NO CONTEST and cannot be taken into consideration
                Toney is no where near a top 5 and would not be above Winky, Hatton, and Tarver.. He doesn't even have any belts LOL

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                • oldgringo
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Gladiator
                  Come on man, Corrales ranked at #3
                  He was knocked down how many times? And his win was so controversial..
                  Also someone who lost by a KO 4 fights ago and another 5 fights before that.
                  Fine top 10 but not ranked as #3

                  Toney - Any of those were even close to be anywhere on top 10 P4P when Toney beat them? (Jirov Holyfield, Booker)
                  Ruiz was a NO CONTEST and cannot be taken into consideration
                  Toney is no where near a top 5 and would not be above Winky, Hatton, and Tarver.. He doesn't even have any belts LOL

                  Corrales has 3 very impressive wins in his last 3 fights...that covers the what have you done for me lately part. He's only fought and lost twice to top competition. He's a 2 division champ and has put together an impressive resume. That covers the career aspect. He just KOed (not in the greatest fashion but give me a break with the nitpicking) maybe the toughest fighter in boxing who was riding a great streak at the time. It can certainly be argued that he could be seen as p4p #3.

                  Toney hasn't lost since '97, he's a 3 division champ who could have been (could still be) a 4 div champ if not for the ****** roids. His past career doesn't require any arguing with wins over McCallum x2, Nunn, Barkley, etc. His what have you done for me lately resume includes reviving his career against a top 20 p4p guy in Cruiserweight King Vassiliy Jirov, Holyfield, and a decisive beating of John Ruiz (there are two stances to take on the Ruiz fight...and even though it's a no contest, everyone knows what happened in the ring). The fact that a former middleweight is beating heavyweights is impressive enough...just think about Hopkins or Taylor trying to move up and beat John Ruiz...it probably wouldn't happen. You could make a case for Toney being ranked highly on the p4p list too.

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                  • Manny_P
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                    #19
                    read my sig!

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                    • Run
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Gladiator
                      Toney is no where near a top 5 and would not be above Winky, Hatton,
                      Compare and Contrast the level of opposition faced, and victorious over. I think I might give the slight edge to James Toney times one hundred, regarding Hatton.



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