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[trainhard_187]

I know you have seen this before cuz its kind of the truth-
1. Marquez jumped up HOW MANY weight classes- never fought before above 135- at a catchweight of 144. A weight that Floyd did not even make. You call that a credible win? A fat Marquez basically.
2. Mosley was only available after the earthquake. Mosley had 2 training camps, inactivity for what a year and half? I like Mosley, but he looked like crap that fight.
Pac was lined up to fight Cotto already. Who knows how Mosley vs Pac would be if he fought sooner and only had 1 camp- great fight IMO!

On top of that why would Arum split the revenue with the Golden Girls if Pac was matched up with Shane when Arum holds the guy who beat Shane, Cotto.

So for those out their to say Pac ducked Shane.. Shane was lined up against Berto and Pac was lineup against Cotto..

[Sugar Q]

[I dont think Pac ducked Shane at all. My logic is this, Arum had the fighter, Cotto, who beat Shane so why would he put Pac against Shane and split the profits with the Golden Girls..

Pac CLEARLY ducked Shane. Shane refused to sign the contracts for the Bertos fight until Team Pac said "go away, leave us alone". The real logic is Arum had the injured fighter who barely beat Shane and Shane CRUSHED the guy that CRUSHED Cotto (even though he cheated) that just goes to show that Arum don't give a rat's ass about none of them.

[Russian Crushin]

[I dont think Pac ducked Shane at all. My logic is this, Arum had the fighter, Cotto, who beat Shane so why would he put Pac against Shane and split the profits with the Golden Girls..

Yea plus if he did fight Mosley we would be in the same position but hear about how Pac "ducked" Cotto.

These Floyd fans says Manny ducked 10 guys but dont realize he can only fight 1 guy at a time....i mean how diid he duck Floyd, Mosley and Marquez in order to fight Cotto? What was he suppose to do fightall 4 at once?

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Roach knows of two of his fighters who tested positive for PEDsPosted Mar. 12, 2010 at 11:06am

By Michael RosenthalBuzz up!


DALLAS – Freddie Roach, the trainer of Manny Pacquiao, said he has worked with two fighters who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs but takes precautions so it won’t creep into his gym in Hollywood, Calif.

Roach said one of his former fighters, Justin Fortune, was known to have used PEDs and James Toney twice tested positive for steroids, once when he was working with Roach.

“I won’t say I didn’t know,” said Roach, referring to Toney. “I never asked him, though. I never had a conversation. I could see his body structure had signs, his traps and stuff. He was either lifting a lot of weight or he was on (something).

“… I think I had one other fighter on steroids also, Justin Fortune. … I know he’d been there before.”

[trainhard_187]

Pac CLEARLY ducked Shane. Shane refused to sign the contracts for the Bertos fight until Team Pac said "go away, leave us alone". The real logic is Arum had the injured fighter who barely beat Shane and Shane CRUSHED the guy that CRUSHED Cotto (even though he cheated) that just goes to show that Arum don't give a rat's ass about none of them.

Again, Arum had the fighter who beat Shane.. Miguel Cotto.. Pacman stopped Cotto again stopped Cotto.. Why would Arum want to split the revenue and match up Pac with Shane who Cotto beat.

Pac never calls out fighters and laces them up with who ever.. Arum job is to match up fighters for Pac not Pac or Roach..

[Russian Crushin]

Pac CLEARLY ducked Shane. Shane refused to sign the contracts for the Bertos fight until Team Pac said "go away, leave us alone". The real logic is Arum had the injured fighter who barely beat Shane and Shane CRUSHED the guy that CRUSHED Cotto (even though he cheated) that just goes to show that Arum don't give a rat's ass about none of them.

Hey like you said Margarito cheated so that should be discounted.....Cotto beat Mosley, so Cotto got the fight......ibet you thing Manny ducked Mosley, Floyd and Marquez to fight Cotto but fail to tell me how you can duck 3 fighters at once

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Roach knows of two of his fighters who tested positive for PEDsPosted Mar. 12, 2010 at 11:06am

By Michael RosenthalBuzz up!


DALLAS – Freddie Roach, the trainer of Manny Pacquiao, said he has worked with two fighters who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs but takes precautions so it won’t creep into his gym in Hollywood, Calif.

Roach said one of his former fighters, Justin Fortune, was known to have used PEDs and James Toney twice tested positive for steroids, once when he was working with Roach.

“I won’t say I didn’t know,” said Roach, referring to Toney. “I never asked him, though. I never had a conversation. I could see his body structure had signs, his traps and stuff. He was either lifting a lot of weight or he was on (something).

“… I think I had one other fighter on steroids also, Justin Fortune. … I know he’d been there before.”

He said, she said, they said...... your point is..? Show us some positive PED test from Pacquiao rather then this point the finger on him crap..

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Roach knows of two of his fighters who tested positive for PEDsPosted Mar. 12, 2010 at 11:06am

By Michael RosenthalBuzz up!


DALLAS – Freddie Roach, the trainer of Manny Pacquiao, said he has worked with two fighters who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs but takes precautions so it won’t creep into his gym in Hollywood, Calif.

Roach said one of his former fighters, Justin Fortune, was known to have used PEDs and James Toney twice tested positive for steroids, once when he was working with Roach.

“I won’t say I didn’t know,” said Roach, referring to Toney. “I never asked him, though. I never had a conversation. I could see his body structure had signs, his traps and stuff. He was either lifting a lot of weight or he was on (something).

“… I think I had one other fighter on steroids also, Justin Fortune. … I know he’d been there before.”

Whats your point? your completely misreading the article and getting on a man for being honest....

steriods is something that is unspoken, what should he have done? ratted him out? Im pretty sure Barry Bonds' trainers knew he was juicing yet said NOTHING. Why? because you dont call a fighter out on those things, its like that in EVERY SINGLE sport. Nobody ever called out Barry Bonds because others wise they would have a 95 mph fastball in between thier eyes

[Sugar Q]

Yea plus if he did fight Mosley we would be in the same position but hear about how Pac "ducked" Cotto.

These Floyd fans says Manny ducked 10 guys but dont realize he can only fight 1 guy at a time....i mean how diid he duck Floyd, Mosley and Marquez in order to fight Cotto? What was he suppose to do fightall 4 at once?

It's funny the ones he chooses are all tainted and recently defeated. But you notice Floyd always goes for the winners. Fighters that bring something to the table.

1) Team Pac said Manny had a date in March thinking Floyd would say it's too soon but Floyd said let's go now how did Manny's ass get out of that?

2) The WHOLE WORLD knows that Shane BEGGED Manny for a fight and Manny said "leave me alone, go pick on Floyd. Your too big for me.

3) Marquez called Manny out to his face after the controversial 2nd fight and Manny looked right at him and said "I don't want a 3rd fight, I wanna fight somebody different now.

[Sugar Q]

Hey like you said Margarito cheated so that should be discounted.....Cotto beat Mosley, so Cotto got the fight......ibet you thing Manny ducked Mosley, Floyd and Marquez to fight Cotto but fail to tell me how you can duck 3 fighters at once

Come on with the whack mind games dude. Manny ran up to 147 to get away from Marquez. Manny had Floyd in March and ran from that and when that didnt happen instead of facing Shane ( the man who beat the man to become the man) He went for Cotto (the man who barely beat the man then got beat by Cheato).