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Why does Floyd have to win 7 titles to be great?
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Originally posted by Ravishing View PostTitles still mean something in the sport. For guys like Pacquiao and Mayweather who are seeing much bigger checks than the dude who's 15-0 coming up looking for his first title, a title is just another trophy to hang.
Ask yourselves this, do you think Floyd is gonna throw out the showcase of titles he has in his house as if they mean nothing? Of course not...lol, they mean a lot to him because that paved the way to get where he is today. Does he need another belt now? No, he earned his spot in Boxing and is an attraction, something most fighters will never be.
He can say **** about titles now, but prior to him being a star he was all about winning the next title.
Best believe if Pacquiao wanted all the titles at LW/ Jr WW...he could have gotten them a long time ago. So could have Floyd. Hence, titles don't mean much.
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Originally posted by No Ceilings View PostWhat kind of dumb ****** logic is that?
Floyd can end up with a better resume and career than Pac. A win over a prime Pac and wins over Williams, Martinez, or Berto makes him move up in the ATG list.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostExactly. Like I said...Joe Calzaghe was in the running for that award . Not to knock him but...you feel me?
Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostI agree. But when you bring up Hagler (and even Hopkins), you're talking about a different era, when belts meant more. Ricky Hatton had the IBO title, for goodness sake. WTF is that? And he wasn't the best fighter at 140 either so he doesn't get a pass on that side.
Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostAnyone who saw Hatton against Lazcano knew he was finished. And could not possibly be the best. He was just the best name. It's like arguing that Pea was the best welter when Oscar beat him. Yeah, in ****zines but anyone who saw him against Hurtado knew Tito and Quartey would beat his ass. Cotto was a top 147lber but not the top. Not after that beatdown form Margarito who was the top dog until he got beat down. Simple .
I agree that Cotto wasn't the best but I still feel he was top 3. I actually had it a toss up outta between Cotto and Mosley with Pac ranked #3
*Mayweather a wild card as he had only beaten Marquez, so it was unfair to judge him, esp. after such a long layoff.*
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Originally posted by California Love View PostBecause Manny's fans always want to compare Manny's achievements to Floyd's achievements. They always brag about Manny's 7 titles, but he's a paper champ. Floyd won the official belt in the weight classes he won a title and he's going to win the belts at 160.
Floyd can end up with a better resume and career than Pac. A win over a prime Pac and wins over Williams, Martinez, or Berto makes him move up in the ATG list.
I agree Floyd could end up with a better resume, assuming he does a few things.
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Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View PostYes but little do we know, most of these boxers aren't looking to accomplish the most in this sport. Juanma could have faced Cab, although Pacquiao has accomplished alot he could have done more. This isn't a race, Mayweather or Pacquiao don't view this as some sort of race.
Best believe if Pacquiao wanted all the titles at LW/ Jr WW...he could have gotten them a long time ago. So could have Floyd. Hence, titles don't mean much.
Both Pacquiao and Floyd as we speak are beyond looking for a title more than the biggest payday because they reached that level. Even though there's 4 titles to each division, you gotta earn your stripes just like Pac and Floyd did.
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Floyd is an ATG whether you guys like it or not. He doesn’t need 7 titles to be great, he already is. But if were gonna compare Pacs achievements to Floyds, He ****s on moneys record. Pacs got the historic 7th title, Floyd is undefeated. If someone serves pac a loss, his 7th record 7th stays. IF, I say IF, some beats Floyd, that 0’s gone.
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Originally posted by Ray* View Post
Of course i do think Pac has achieve more but i dont think its that much more like some want to have us believe.
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Originally posted by California Love View PostBecause Manny's fans always want to compare Manny's achievements to Floyd's achievements. They always brag about Manny's 7 titles, but he's a paper champ. Floyd won the official belt in the weight classes he won a title and he's going to win the belts at 160.
Floyd can end up with a better resume and career than Pac. A win over a prime Pac and wins over Williams, Martinez, or Berto makes him move up in the ATG list.
just like what u said (bolded), floyd still has work to do, Pacs achieved that.
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