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Why does Floyd have to win 7 titles to be great?
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Originally posted by GT-R View PostBottom line is Floyd dont give a **** about *****s and titles. He fights for checks. Skills pay the bills, Belts collect dust, the garbageman is still unpaid.
So why are you guys fighting for him again?
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostThey don't mean much to writers. They are just the ones who get to vote. Trust me, no writer debates saying, "He won Fighter of the Decade!" That's for message boards like this.
e.g. beating the top guy in the division vs winning a vacant belt or beating a paper champ
Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostThose are terrible examples. Hagler was the undisputed champ in his division. So was B-Hop. Belts are only as good as the waist its on.
Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostDavid Diaz wasn't legit. And it's debatable who was tops at 135 or 140. I mean, was Ricky Hatton really the top 140lber? Hell no. Did Pacquiao ever beat the top 147lber? Hell no. That's just the way it goes.
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Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View PostThere is so much more to consider. For example, Cotto's WBO being on the line at 145. **** people don't forget that Lalonde's LHW title was on the line against Leonard and they faught at 168!
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Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S View PostWell I see what you are saying. I'm not saying they are the deciding factor but they do mean alot depending on how they were earned.
e.g. beating the top guy in the division vs winning a vacant belt or beating a paper champ
How was that a terrible example. He said belts don't mean nothing but tell that to B-hop and Hagler (who prided themselves of being the MW champ and defending their titles). To be the Champ you have to have a title...which I why I brought that up to argue his statement that titles mean nothing.
I agree which is why I said I digress. IMO Diaz was atleast a top 5 LW but to me that was one of Pac's worst wins, which is why I hardly bring it up. FWIW there was no one at 140 better than Hatton when Pac beat him. Talent wise...maybe (although I can't think of anyone) but not accomplishment wise. Also Cotto was a top 147lb. Was he the best at that time, I don't think so but he did beat Clottey Zab Quintana and Mosley....making him a very Legit fighter (top 3 IMO) at 147.
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Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View PostThere is so much more to consider. For example, Cotto's WBO being on the line at 145. **** people don't forget that Lalonde's LHW title was on the line against Leonard and they faught at 168!
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Originally posted by Ray* View PostI still remember that BS that Ray Leonard pull with Lalonde till today, Like IMDAZED said its "who you beat and when"...............Hatton beat Castillo but its when he beat him.
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Titles still mean something in the sport. For guys like Pacquiao and Mayweather who are seeing much bigger checks than the dude who's 15-0 coming up looking for his first title, a title is just another trophy to hang.
Ask yourselves this, do you think Floyd is gonna throw out the showcase of titles he has in his house as if they mean nothing? Of course not...lol, they mean a lot to him because that paved the way to get where he is today. Does he need another belt now? No, he earned his spot in Boxing and is an attraction, something most fighters will never be.
He can say **** about titles now, but prior to him being a star he was all about winning the next title.
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Originally posted by GT-R View PostBottom line is Floyd dont give a **** about *****s and titles. He fights for checks. Skills pay the bills, Belts collect dust, the garbageman is still unpaid.
So why are you guys fighting for him again?
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