Whats a bigger vulnerability? Pac to straight right hands or Floyd against southpaws?

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  • Boxingholic
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    #11
    Pac is exceptional southpaw, or Flyod would have not request to even playing field.

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      #12
      Originally posted by zinaldo1982
      Very true but i think this could pacman downfall because if floyd adapts but is also in his defensive god mode then i think pacman would then turn into mosley and stop throwing that many punches because there is nothing like not hitting someone while being hit by 1 strong right hand or 2 solid punches.

      Pacman courageous boxing behaviour could be his downfall as he is so forward thinking and if floyd is on he will just pick him to death like he did against gatti even though pacman has the speed to counter but we all know that marquez could counter pacman without being hit in return so how would pacman be able to hit the best and fastest counter puncher in the history of the sport for me.

      only time will tell.
      You bring good points. But the Gatti fight is a mirage to me a little bit. For some reason Gatti tried to outbox Floyd. Like in his mind and I think McGirt gameplan was to outbox Floyd. Which was ******.

      If Pac comes out and tries to be cute and tries to outbox Floyd or keeps his hands down and is lazy with the jab like Shane then Pac will be getting stopped.

      However, Pac only chance is too keep coming forward and throw punches. I will say this I don't think Floyd has fought somebody with the workrate of Pacquiao since Castillo. He fought pressure fighters and fast southpaws but they didn't have Pac work rate.

      If Pac sits back and lets Floyd get on his offensive mode is over right then there. Pac shot at beating Floyd is too keep Floyd on defensive mode. And, keep the pressure on him. Pac will eat a lot of right hands in the process but will have to take him. Because, as soon as he starts to hesitate and sit back and let Floyd tee off on him he will get KO'd. So he will have to go balls out and keep coming and coming and who knows he might get Floyd respect where Floyd will have to be on defensive mode. And, Pac might out hustle him or outwork him to get a close decision.

      But, if Pac fights like Gatti, Shane, or Judah. He is done. He can't fight like that.

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        #13
        Floyd is an exceptional defensive fighter and as fast as manny especially in hands speed but manny tries to confuse his opponents by throwing a lot of punches especially in awkward angles but while he does that he always seems off balance and if he is in that situation more than once against floyd you can be sure he would be punished.

        I see them fighting and whoever wins the first fight would or could then adjust and win the second and then really go at it in the third pretty much knowing everything about each other and then find that little bit to win the last fight.

        Greatest defence against greatest offence.

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          Very true but we all saw how suddenly mosley stopped throwing despite almost knocking down floyd because whenever someone hits you whenever you try and hit them it changes the way you want to box and it clearly did shane.

          I think we all know floyd would be on hyper defensive mode against manny but how would he react to be hit a lot more than he has ever been in his career as we all saw against marquez manny was slightly reluctant to throw to many punches but still did despite marquez not hitting him a lot .

          This fight would depend more on what manny does than what floyd does because people would expect manny to the aggressor but floyd has shown that he can also come forward.

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            #15
            Originally posted by No Ceilings
            His punches have too much sting on them for Pac to just keep coming.

            So you think Pac will become defensive and fight off his back foot not laying into shots?

            My point isn't that Pac would win, but he'd keep trying and has the speed to possibly connect again, because he has more heart than Judah or Corley put together.

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              #16
              Originally posted by jreckoning
              So you think Pac will become defensive and fight off his back foot not laying into shots?

              My point isn't that Pac would win, but he'd keep trying and has the speed to possibly connect again, because he has more heart than Judah or Corley put together.
              He has heart no doubt. But what shocked me is how his face looked after the Clottey fight. You wouldve thought he lost.

              Pac wont run but he will hesitant and more picky with his punches.

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                But against cotto pacman actually became counter puncher for a little while because he actually caught cotto while going backwards and not his usual forward boxing but against floyd he would be made to come forward and throw.

                Which is when and if floyd is on his game he would just pick him off to death i hope but pacman does have the speed and the power so i hope floyd won't be to reckless and leave himself open like he did against shane.

                The fight to my view is or will be depending on which floyd turns up 52 to 48 in floyd favour in my mind.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
                  He has heart no doubt. But what shocked me is how his face looked after the Clottey fight. You wouldve thought he lost.

                  Pac wont run but he will hesitant and more picky with his punches.

                  I don;t like face looked theories?

                  I just think May wouldn't discourage Pac as much as others so Floyd would have to be on point all 12.


                  How Pac looks will be irrelevant.

                  I see many guys who looked like they got beat up, yet knocked the guy out.

                  I don't see Pac being terribly picky even when he's missing big.


                  He could lose 118-110 but Floyd's gonna earn that 118, best believe that.

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                    pacquiao is more vulnerable to the rights. we've seen mayweather get rocked and be able to survive. pacquiao doesnt possess the same power as mosley. he may be quicker and have more angles but with a nearly impenetrable defense, pacquiao is more susceptible to get hit.

                    pacquiao gets outboxed 9/10 times.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by jreckoning
                      I don;t like face looked theories?

                      I just think May wouldn't discourage Pac as much as others so Floyd would have to be on point all 12.


                      How Pac looks will be irrelevant.

                      I see many guys who looked like they got beat up, yet knocked the guy out.

                      I don't see Pac being terribly picky even when he's missing big.


                      He could lose 118-110 but Floyd's gonna earn that 118, best believe that.

                      This is what happens when people fight Floyd. Their work rate gets cut in half and they get outboxed or brutalized and sometimes both. Pac will be trying to win hes not just going go in there like a fool and make it easy for Floyd to tee off on him. No one likes to get punched in the face not even Pac.

                      Floyd will make Pac use his brain all Pac wants to do is use his fists. He will be thinking too much on how to land a good shot because of Floyds reflexes and countering ability. It freezes people. I dont see Pac taking too many flush rights from Floyd without Freddie calling it off. You also have to factor in Floyds body punching its arguably the best in boxing. He will slow back down significantly.

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