Would a cut-off date in Random testing really matter?

[infamous larryx]

wada has a 2 day cut off already implemented..thats fine

[cupocity303]

Aren't the last 10 days generally a cool-off period, where you do light-training just to maintain.

He would still have to do a post-fight drug test. So that would give him 2 weeks to inject himself to gain an advantage and then mask-it-up for the post-drug test.

And with all this attention on blood testing and him cheating, that would seems very risky. What if the masking-agent fails and doesn't clean out his system completely and they find just a little drug in his sytem?

I just don't find it that big of a deal to give them the cut-off date if they want it so badly.

[And Still]

Yes, so he would have 16-18 days to use it with no random testing, BUT how does he then clear out his system? Does he then use a masking agent?

Seems too much risk in that little window of time, to do all that with all the eyes on Pacquiao, waiting for him to get caught. Don't you think?

But isn't that why Pacquiao asked for 30 days? And only begrudgingly agreed to 24 days?

To date, Pac has not budged below 24 days.

[And Still]

what fighter trains till their last fiber in fight week?

Mayweather sparred hard on Thursday before weigh-in.

[infamous larryx]

do people understand most training camps are 6 weeks...that 42 days..and manny wants a 24 day cutt off.....lol...thats more than half of training camp

[DLT]

TS, the problem is this. Floyd & Mosley went the full way and had the max amount of blood test which is 5. That makes everything totally random. Lets say Pac gets 18 days. He still only wants the minimum. Thats the part that everyone keeps leaving out. Not only does he want the days but they have said over & over again that they only want 3 test. Keep in mind that it "includes" a post fight test.

That basically makes it totally non random because there will only be 2 pre fight blood test with a cutoff date. 1 test is going to come right around when the fight is signed or after the tour and then the other test will probably be right around the cutoff date. He will know when they are coming. You can try to fool him and do that final one like 2 weeks before the cutoff date but then that means you are giving him over a month before the fight to cheat. No one is looking at that part. Its not just the date but its the date combined with them wanting only 3 test. That aint ****. No way he gets caught like that

[SplitSecond]

Mayweather sparred hard on Thursday before weigh-in.

then i'd be more worried about floyd on steroids, the guy apperently trains non-stop, never overtrains, never tears a muscle

hmm...never heard of a fighter working till shutdown the day of a weigh-in

[And Still]

i've said it plenty of times, two weeks aint gonna help, especially considering the last week you are prohibited from training hard

You said "prohibited". I'm just trying to understand prohibited by whom.

Different fighters use different techniques. Shane was concerned about not leaving it all in the gym. Hatton goes hard for 12 rounds on that goofy bag about 5-7 days before the fight.

Floyd goes hard up til the fight.

[cupocity303]

so they do blood testing in mma now or just urine testing? if it's just urine why does that mma fighter have to clear his system? i thought urine testing is not effective...

I'm not sure. I'm not too educated on this subject at all, I just found it interesting that MTV showed a MMA fighter who decided to give himself an extra-edge for his pro-debut by using steroids.

And the way he used it was early on, clearing anything he used well in advance so there isn't a slight chance of him testing positive.

Which leads me to the conclusion, that Pac would have to be crazy to agree to get blood tested randomly to all but two-weeks and then inject himself and risk testing positive with all this media attention. What if his masking-agent fails him? I'm sure that if he did use something in prior fights, it was done so early in training camp anyway. I doubt he used anything 10 days before the fight and would decide to do so now with the whole world watching.

[And Still]

then i'd be more worried about floyd on steroids, the guy apperently trains non-stop, never overtrains, never tears a muscle

hmm...never heard of a fighter working till shutdown the day of a weigh-in

Are you questioning that it happened? Care to place a wager, primo?

side note: aren't nagging injuries more indicative of steroid use? Not LACK of injuries?