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  • Joeyzagz
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    #21
    All-time hes not even top 10, but Im assuming Paulie means if he faced past Heavyweights in the ring.

    If thats the case he is top 10.

    1. Lennox(any version)
    2. Tyson(w/ Rooney)
    3. Vitali Klitschko(Prime)
    4. Muhammad Ali(1974-1976)
    5. George Foreman(1973)
    6. Larry Holmes(1980)
    7. Wladimir Klitschko(now)
    8. Joe Louis(1940's)
    9. Rocky Marciano(1950's)
    10. Evander Holyfield(late 90's)

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    • geribeetus
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      #22
      wlad will probably retire as a top 10 heavyweight. if he hadn't gotten himself knocked out he might've already been.

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      • Joeyzagz
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        #23
        Originally posted by geribeetus
        wlad will probably retire as a top 10 heavyweight. if he hadn't gotten himself knocked out he might've already been.
        Who does Wlad replace on the top 10? cuz I dont see it. He doesnt have any standout achievements and I believe his brother would get in before him.


        Jack Dempsey: Relentless, Biggest sports star of his era, only second to Babe Ruth

        Jack Johnson: First boxing villain, brought defensive skill to the sport

        Marciano: Undefeated

        Joe Louis: Record 66-3, Champ for 12 years straight with no losses

        Muhammad Ali(Fought in toughest HW era and beat them all)

        George Foreman
        76-5 (68 KOs) Oldest heavyweight champ

        Larry Holmes
        69-6, started late but still went 48-0 before first loss. Dominated for 8 straight years.

        Lennox Lewis (defeated everyone he ever faced including top guy of next era)

        Mike Tyson
        Biggest boxing star of all time, Youngest Heavyweight champion ever

        Sam Langford
        - 127 KOs!! Hes knocked out more guys than Lennox,Vitali and Wlad put together

        Not to mention guys like Gene Tunney, Frazier, Liston and Holyfield.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Soir
          Who does Wlad replace on the top 10? cuz I dont see it. He doesnt have any standout achievements and I believe his brother would get in before him.


          Jack Dempsey: Relentless, Biggest sports star of his era, only second to Babe Ruth

          Jack Johnson: First boxing villain, brought defensive skill to the sport

          Marciano: Undefeated

          Joe Louis: Record 66-3, Champ for 12 years straight with no losses

          Muhammad Ali(Fought in toughest HW era and beat them all)

          George Foreman
          76-5 (68 KOs) Oldest heavyweight champ

          Larry Holmes
          69-6, started late but still went 48-0 before first loss. Dominated for 8 straight years.

          Lennox Lewis (defeated everyone he ever faced including top guy of next era)

          Mike Tyson
          Biggest boxing star of all time, Youngest Heavyweight champion ever

          Sam Langford
          - 127 KOs!! Hes knocked out more guys than Lennox,Vitali and Wlad put together

          Not to mention guys like Gene Tunney, Frazier, Liston and Holyfield.
          hard to say right now, but if he dominates the division until he's in his late 30s or early 40s, he's got a strong argument.

          regardless of the excuses people make for america not having someone who can beat him, being heavyweight champ for that long is special.

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          • FLYBOY
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            #25
            Muhammad Ali is the greatest Heavyweight ever.

            Then come Joe Louis and George Foreman.

            Foreman would KO Klitschko in Round 1 so how is Klitschko the greatest?!

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              #26
              Originally posted by ben_london
              prime tyson struggled with bonecrusher smith and mitch green.
              lmaoooooooooooooo owned

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                #27
                Originally posted by FLYBOY
                Muhammad Ali is the greatest Heavyweight ever.

                Then come Joe Louis and George Foreman.

                Foreman would KO Klitschko in Round 1 so how is Klitschko the greatest?!
                Foreman couldn't even KO Axel Schulz, he decisioned him ...barely.

                Wlad annihilated Schultz brutally KTFO.

                Foreman wouldn't do ****. Klitschko would take his soul and turn his face into burger meat, ready for the Foreman grill.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Soir
                  All-time hes not even top 10, but Im assuming Paulie means if he faced past Heavyweights in the ring.

                  If thats the case he is top 10.

                  1. Lennox(any version)
                  2. Tyson(w/ Rooney)
                  3. Vitali Klitschko(Prime)
                  4. Muhammad Ali(1974-1976)
                  5. George Foreman(1973)
                  6. Larry Holmes(1980)
                  7. Wladimir Klitschko(now)
                  8. Joe Louis(1940's)
                  9. Rocky Marciano(1950's)
                  10. Evander Holyfield(late 90's)
                  Nice list mate.

                  I'd switch numbers 1 and 3 considering Vitali annihilated Lennox Lewis but I'm willing to entertain your support for a fellow countryman. Either way Tyson and Vitali are the 2 most ruthless heavyweights of the past 40 years.

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                  • Joeyzagz
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by etlux
                    Foreman couldn't even KO Axel Schulz, he decisioned him ...barely.

                    Wlad annihilated Schultz brutally KTFO.

                    Foreman wouldn't do ****. Klitschko would take his soul and turn his face into burger meat, ready for the Foreman grill.
                    Did you really compare a 70's Heavyweight fighting Axel Schultz to a young Wladimr who fought Schultz 4 years AFTER Foreman beat him?

                    Beating a 46 year old mans sloppy seconds is nothing to be proud of.

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                    • Joeyzagz
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by etlux
                      Nice list mate.

                      I'd switch numbers 1 and 3 considering Vitali annihilated Lennox Lewis but I'm willing to entertain your support for a fellow countryman. Either way Tyson and Vitali are the 2 most ruthless heavyweights of the past 40 years.
                      If he couldn't beat the old, overweight, worst, version of Lennox I doubt he'd fair well against any of the others either.

                      Vitali beats anyone not named Lennox and possibly Tyson.

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