who has a boxer's chance against floyd?

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  • dibzvincent143
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    #31
    Pac does ko floyd. Valero vs Pac is hard to call because they are both so relentless, i think its a case of whoever makes the first mistake. That fight would not have gone 12 for sure. Floyd is the best pure boxer out of the 3, but at that elite level, and only at that elite level, can speed and power override a defensive skill set. Thats why floyd would lose imo, not by being outboxed but by ko. Moselys 2nd round confirmed any doubts i previously had
    ok. i do respect your opinion and i'll just leave it at that.

    but i certainly do believe that the mosley that floyd beat can beat valero.
    valero beats anyone at 135 now.

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    • {Pito}
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      #32
      I don't. Believe anyone can outbox Floyd today. I give these guys a definite chance though, perhaps Timothy Bradley, Devon Alexander, a disciplined and cardio trained zab Judah, and a Lamont Peterson that choses to display all his skills rather than relying on his inside game, and a pre-jail Paul Spadafora I think wouldve beat him.

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        #33
        Originally posted by ElHuracan
        I don't. Believe anyone can outbox Floyd today. I give these guys a definite chance though, perhaps Timothy Bradley, Devon Alexander, a disciplined and cardio trained zab Judah, and a Lamont Peterson that choses to display all his skills rather than relying on his inside game, and a pre-jail Paul Spadafora I think wouldve beat him.
        He did beat him - in sparring lol

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          #34
          Originally posted by jonesy
          Pac does ko floyd. Valero vs Pac is hard to call because they are both so relentless, i think its a case of whoever makes the first mistakes. That fight would not have gone 12 for sure. Floyd is the best pure boxer out of the 3, but at that elite level, and only at that elite level, can speed and power override effectively. Thats why floyd would lose imo, not by being outboxed but by ko. Moselys 2nd round confirmed any doubts i previously had.
          are you 110% sure that Pac's speed & power is so much greater than Floyd's?

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            Yeah he did, but sparring is sparring no one goes hard in sparring and I don't. Believe for one second when people say mayweather was fat. Mayweather is a gym rat. What I do concede is tha perhaps he wasn't "fighting fit" whereas Paul was ready for a fight. But even so Paul and Floyd were sparring....even Though Paul performed well in a spar I believe if both guys were fit it would be a war but a PRE-JAIL Spaddy would've done it to Floyd.

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              #36
              Originally posted by DLT
              are you 110% sure that Pac's speed & power is so much greater than Floyd's?
              Im sure. With a single punch floyd is quicker and more powerful. However, with combinations Pac is faster and has more explosive power. That is the main difference. Floyds game of "hit and not get hit" will not work against Manny.

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                Im sure. With a single punch floyd is quicker and more powerful. However, with combinations Pac is faster and has more explosive power. That is the main difference. Floyds game of "hit and not get hit" will not work against Manny.
                floyd-pac for me is a close game. coz i dont wanna be bias to either side coz im both amazed with there talents.. i just hope that this kind of fight is not fight wherein u still cant determine the winner after round 4.or much better after 12.

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                  #38
                  floyd-pac a close fight.

                  Im sure. With a single punch floyd is quicker and more powerful. However, with combinations Pac is faster and has more explosive power. That is the main difference. Floyds game of "hit and not get hit" will not work against Manny.
                  floyd-pac for me is a close game. coz i dont wanna be bias to either side coz im both amazed with there talents.. i just hope that this kind of fight is not fight wherein u still cant determine the winner after round 4.or much better after 12.

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                    #39
                    no one does imo. you have to be physically and stylistically better than him. castillo was stronger and he outmuscled and nearly outworked floyd.

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                      #40
                      pacquiao and martinez.....

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