FAO: PED experts.

[Ryannn]

And your opinion is meaningless, especially considering Olympic officials, Tour De France officials, the MLB and NFL front offices, and just about every other major sporting organization believe the opposite.

Next.

yes, those sports are exactly like boxing where fighters train for 2 months and fight once....

floyd's proposal for fullblown OST is unnecessary for boxing.

[Ryannn]

And your opinion is meaningless, especially considering Olympic officials, Tour De France officials, the MLB and NFL front offices, and just about every other major sporting organization believe the opposite.

Next.

come on mr. PED expert, you can do better than that.

[shogunn]

And your opinion is meaningless, especially considering Olympic officials, Tour De France officials, the MLB and NFL front offices, and just about every other major sporting organization believe the opposite.

Furthermore, as I mentioned in the other thread you were spamming, you don't know a damn thing about PED's. You haven't the slightest clue about stacking, ****tails, or doping cycles. You have zero expertise in the effects of EPO, myosatin, the cream and clear, HGH, etc.

Next.

had no idea mlb and the nfl are working with usada

can you elaborate more, ive never heard this

[Hannibal Barca]

yes, those sports are exactly like boxing where fighters train for 2 months and fight once....

floyd's proposal for fullblown OST is unnecessary for boxing.

The Olympics includes boxing genius. The Tour De France is physically more taxing than boxing, etc, etc, etc.

And you believe that because you're ******ed.

http://ringtalk.com/exclusive-wada-h...ected-in-blood

WADA’s Director General David Howman responded as follows:
“WADA is not involved in the situation you are referring to, which falls under the jurisdiction of organizations that are not signatories to the World Anti-Doping Code (Code) – the document harmonizing global anti-doping rules.
“WADA strongly recommends the adoption of the Code by the organizations governing boxing worldwide. AIBA has adopted and implemented the Code, as more than 675 sports organizations around the world have done. The Code provides rigorous and transparent anti-doping procedures that sports and athletes who have nothing to hide should welcome.
“Among other provisions, the Code makes out-of-competition testing mandatory for signatories. Given that out-of-competition tests can be conducted anytime, anywhere, and without notice to athletes, they are considered the most effective means of detection and deterrence of doping and are an important step in strengthening athlete and public confidence in doping-free sport.
“A number of substances and methods banned by WADA’s List of Prohibited Substances and Methods, including hGH, are currently only detectable through blood testing.”

[TheManniePhresh]

The current test can only show if synthetic hgh was taken within 24-48 hours of usage. the key to catching cheaters is in the random testing. knowing exactly when the tests are going to be taken can make them ineffective here is a link with scientific data to back up what i am saying. please stop spreading lies supporting cheating.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/29/sports/29hgh.html

[Hannibal Barca]

had no idea mlb and the nfl are working with usada

can you elaborate more, ive never heard this

I'm not sure exactly if they're working with USADA, but they're looking to mimic USADA testing policies and implement them into their leagues. Also, you must remember, an efficient blood based HGH test has only been in effect since the Beijing Olympics. It takes time for these things to be placed into affect on a universal scale.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4938135

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4940922

MLB is the above link, NFL is the bottom link.

[shogunn]

The Olympics includes boxing genius. The Tour De France is physically more taxing than boxing, etc, etc, etc.

And you believe that because you're ******ed.

http://ringtalk.com/exclusive-wada-h...ected-in-blood

WADA’s Director General David Howman responded as follows:
“WADA is not involved in the situation you are referring to, which falls under the jurisdiction of organizations that are not signatories to the World Anti-Doping Code (Code) – the document harmonizing global anti-doping rules.
“WADA strongly recommends the adoption of the Code by the organizations governing boxing worldwide. AIBA has adopted and implemented the Code, as more than 675 sports organizations around the world have done. The Code provides rigorous and transparent anti-doping procedures that sports and athletes who have nothing to hide should welcome.
“Among other provisions, the Code makes out-of-competition testing mandatory for signatories. Given that out-of-competition tests can be conducted anytime, anywhere, and without notice to athletes, they are considered the most effective means of detection and deterrence of doping and are an important step in strengthening athlete and public confidence in doping-free sport.
“A number of substances and methods banned by WADA’s List of Prohibited Substances and Methods, including hGH, are currently only detectable through blood testing.”

wouldnt that be your opinion? I think Boxing is much more taxing physically, and mentally compared to bicycling. Can you compare ali and joe louis, or even duk koo kim, to a cyclist with the same condition due to their harsh nature of their sports.

We havent seen Lance Armstrong develop any consequences from cycling, but he's still fairly young. Are you expecting anything soon from him

[Hannibal Barca]

The current test can only show if synthetic hgh was taken within 24-48 hours of usage. the key to catching cheaters is in the random testing. knowing exactly when the tests are going to be taken can make them ineffective here is a link with scientific data to back up what i am saying. please stop spreading lies supporting cheating.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/29/sports/29hgh.html

After awhile, he'll begin ducking his own thread.

[shogunn]

I'm not sure exactly if they're working with USADA, but they're looking to mimic USADA testing policies and implement them into their leagues. Also, you must remember, an efficient blood based HGH test has only been in effect since the Beijing Olympics. It takes time for these things to be placed into affect on a universal scale.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4938135

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4940922

MLB is the above link, NFL is the bottom link.

No where in those articles does it say the NFL or MLB has adopted USADA testing.

Next source, you did say NFL and MLB were working with USADA.

[Hannibal Barca]

wouldnt that be your opinion? I think Boxing is much more taxing physically, and mentally compared to bicycling. Can you compare ali and joe louis, or even duk koo kim, to a cyclist with the same condition due to their harsh nature of their sports.

We havent seen Lance Armstrong develop any consequences from cycling, but he's still fairly young. Are you expecting anything soon from him

Indeed it would, but you'd be hard pressed to convince me that 12, 3 minute rounds is physically more taxing than cycling 2200 miles across a country.