It's Sad: That Floyd Mayweather And Shane Mosley Are The Only Boxers I Know Are Clean

[Clyde Barrow]

Yep.

Nope. What are you going on about?

What I said is,

instead of just going about your business and letting your contribution stand on its own merits, you try to align yourself with a moral consensus re. PBF fans because you're worried that you won't be taken seriously otherwise, worried a few fanboys' bad rep will taint your own by association to the same fighter.

To go 'round constantly whining month after month about other PBF fans making you 'look bad', that is just *****.

Yeah, you are - wrongheaded.

How is it a "good talk rubbished" if one ignorant azzhole calls you a *****? Anybody pulling that crap isn't capable of a "good talk", anyway. If your words have merit, let them stand on it and nobody should misinterpret you . . and if they did, they're an ass, who cares?

And all that all these so-called *****s do is defend his relationships and finacial decisions, huh? Finance is a real part of boxing, it's a (show)business - deal with it. Plenty of anti-Floyd peeps here are threading and posting about his bank-account and relationships on here, it isn't just his supporters.

You already are bothering, Clyde. They are no more annoying than the Cotto guys, the RACIST Pac propagandists, the Slappy Stans (who are now somewhat dispersed, thank God), the Marga******s, etc.

You are arguing it, though, Clyde, and you clearly do care because you keep addressing it. You said it yourself, "again".

I don't care if you start threads or provoke discussion or not. My point is, Burner posts more about boxing and provokes more interesting discussion about boxing than you, so you really have no place referring to him as a troll when all you do is simper and whinge.

I didn't ask you a question, I told you - I don't need to go looking, because I read your NSB posts and I know what the majority of them concern.

Who's complaining? I'm assassinating your *******ry. Point-blank, son.

I don't look for a moral consensus amongst PBF fans; I state that there isn't one. The bulk of his supporters here foolish. I told you, the ones that irritate me are the ones who not only troll, but do so whilst calling others trolls. If posters want to nuthug, their right to do so, it's just phony to do it hiding behind a mask of objectivity that's not real.

And logging onto a boxing site to talk boxing rather than gayness and eating dogs isn't wrong; it's common sense.

And you reinforce my point on good talks shot to **** from the getgo. I want to break down a fight, discuss a resume, etc, and I hear complaints of my supposed bias rather than any logical retort, it's no longer a discussion, it's a bait offer into a flame war.

I was using the bank talk as a general term, ie **** that's not related to negotiating his fights, but "my fighter is richer than your fighter" bollocks.

And restating a solid fact isn't arguing; PBF stans are more annoying than others and Burner is a troll. Period. We'll leave that out next round if you want to continue.

I'm telling you, your past statement is an inquiry implied; "where are your posts ****ting on stans of fighters other than PBF?" If you simply haven't seen them, don't waste time bitching about them.

And you're bitching up a storm mate. You're even complaining about some guy that doesn't even post on this section anymore. Why so gung ho on bitching, to the point that you're looking for things to ***** about?

[PH|L]

How do you know Mayweather was clean against his 39 other opponents?

How do you know Mosley wasn't juicing when he fought against Cotto?

How do you know these guys didn't take some kind of new PED that is undetectable by OST?

Its really sad that you don't.

[ILLuminato]

How much is USADA paying you

[Dick Buffman]

What a bitchmade thread.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

I don't look for a moral consensus amongst PBF fans; I state that there isn't one.

Clyde, are you dumb? Or are you just getting it twisted to be awkward?

I was referring to the moral consensus against Floyd Mayweather Jr. over these past 3 years.

The bulk of his supporters here foolish.

I can name a bunch of good PBF fans here. Plenty of 'em. Some may have red bars, some may have green, but I know the good from the not so good.

I told you, the ones that irritate me are the ones who not only troll, but do so whilst calling others trolls. If posters want to nuthug, their right to do so, it's just phony to do it hiding behind a mask of objectivity that's not real.

Big Wow, he called someone a troll. Plenty of trollish people call each other trolls here who have nothing to do with PBF. Maybe he referred to someone else as a troll because he doesn't see himself as a troll? Guess what - plenty of others don't see him as a troll either, including me.
That's the best example of phoneyism you can find on this site, man? I can think of far worse you're blinded to in your constant towing of the partylines about Mayweather supporters.

And logging onto a boxing site to talk boxing rather than gayness and eating dogs isn't wrong; it's common sense.

I love how you focus on a few retaliatory dog-eater comments and not the "monkey Mayweather" type comments of which there have been far more.

Find me something as grimy as this from a Mayweather supporter on here.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=105728&op=2&o=global&view=global&subj=178944637833&id=100000496782071

^^ Those guys have trolled here - you know that, right?

And you reinforce my point on good talks shot to **** from the getgo. I want to break down a fight, discuss a resume, etc, and I hear complaints of my supposed bias rather than any logical retort, it's no longer a discussion, it's a bait offer into a flame war.

This is a thread about boxers being clean. I don't really see you breaking down styles or talking about boxing in any depth, so that's utterly moot.

I was using the bank talk as a general term, ie **** that's not related to negotiating his fights, but "my fighter is richer than your fighter" bollocks.

So you missed all the Pacquiao Stans bragging about his endorsements? And Cotto fans getting pissy 'cause Marga******s were boasting that Tony had a better t-shirt deal than Cotto?

And restating a solid fact isn't arguing; PBF stans are more annoying than others and Burner is a troll. Period. We'll leave that out next round if you want to continue.

Yes, it is. And it's not a solid fact. They are not more annoying than any of the other major fanboy groups we've seen and No Ceilings is no more a troll than you are - closer to a real fact is that he's a better poster than you.

I'm telling you, your past statement is an inquiry implied; "where are your posts ****ting on stans of fighters other than PBF?" If you simply haven't seen them, don't waste time bitching about them.

They aren't there in any number, so I'm not going to go looking for thin air. I read your NSB posts, I know what you post about.

And you're bitching up a storm mate. You're even complaining about some guy that doesn't even post on this section anymore. Why so gung ho on bitching, to the point that you're looking for things to ***** about?

Who's complaining? I just took it upon myself to point out that a few people are phony, because they are. And you're one of them.


Got any more excuses tonight, Clyde?

[aristotlemoses]

this thread and those like it make me wanna get erect and punch my **** around. I know I have the option not to read. But somehow I always get attracted to bull****.

[Clyde Barrow]

Clyde, are you dumb? Or are you just getting it twisted to be awkward?

I was referring to the moral consensus against Floyd Mayweather Jr. over these past 3 years.


I can name a bunch of good PBF fans here. Plenty of 'em. Some may have red bars, some may have green, but I know the good from the not so good.


Big Wow, he called someone a troll. Plenty of trollish people call each other trolls here who have nothing to do with PBF. Maybe he referred to someone else as a troll because he doesn't see himself as a troll? Guess what - plenty of others don't see him as a troll either, including me.
That's the best example of phoneyism you can find on this site, man? I can think of far worse you're blinded to in your constant towing of the partylines about Mayweather supporters.


I love how you focus on a few retaliatory dog-eater comments and not the "monkey Mayweather" type comments of which there have been far more.


This is a thread about boxers being clean. I don't really see you breaking down styles or talking about boxing in any depth, so that's utterly moot.


So you missed all the Pacquiao Stans bragging about his endorsements? And Cotto fans getting pissy 'cause Marga******s were boasting that Tony had a better t-shirt deal than Cotto?


Yes, it is. And it's not a solid fact. They are not more annoying than any of the other major fanboy groups we've seen and No Ceilings is no more a troll than you are - closer to a real fact is that he's a better poster than you.


They aren't there in any number, so I'm not going to go looking for thin air. I read your NSB posts, I know what you post about.


Who's complaining? I just took it upon myself to point out that a few people are phony, because they are. And you're one of them.


Got any more excuses tonight, Clyde?

Your statement was I was trying to align myself with a moral consensus. On any stance toward PBF or any other fighter, I've never hounded others to cosign my statements.

I know there are good PBF fans here. But those who rep him respectably without sounding like stalkers are in the minority.

And I wasn't referring exclusively to Burner with that comment about labeling others as trolls. Around this forum, I see many PBF cheerleaders riding the high horse, spouting that as PBF is a pure boxer, they as his cheerleaders are "real" boxing fans, and anyone who doesn't love him as much as they do are "trolling, spamming, MMA fans," etc.

Even in quoting insults directed towards PBF not made by me, I wasn't going to voice that racial slur, so I simply mentioned the "gayweather" **** instead.

When I entered this thread, I saw it was another recycled thread about a dead horse topic, and stated as such by laughing at that guy posting food pics. I then had to explain (surprise) to a PBF supporter that I am a PBF supporter too, just not one who's into recycled threads bashing his rivals.

And I've told you, you're bitching about **** you admit you didn't see mate. I've gone at Pac stans and Margarito stans plenty of times. Stop pulling **** outta thin air just to complain about.

And you're the one bringing it up this time, but Burner is a troll, and vouching for him as a good poster is a dumb move.

You're saying I've not made more than a few posts about other stans than PBF's, then refusing to check your own facts. Drop it from the discussion if you aren't going to back it up.

And yet again, persistent theme here; you're looking for things to ***** about, and making yourself look like a daft **** by not checking your facts. That guy doesn't post on this section, but has gone out of his way numerous times to give props to PBF for his win.

I couldn't believe he got whooped like that. I had Floyd by UD goin in, but I thought SSM would take a few more of those scary rds where he hurt him bad and won the rd big. Props to Floyd. That Pac bull**** keeps me from likin him again, but he got my full respect back. I wanted him to fight the top WW for the longest. He finally got forced to and won it big.

Floyd ain't goin to 154. He'll retire if he don't get back. He would never fight Pwill even if it was at 147.

That guy didn't even have anything to do with our discussion, or this thread period, yet you're so gung ho on crying that you pulled it out of thin air. That's just the kind of whining I was talking about from PBF stans. Give it a rest mate.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Your statement was I was trying to align myself with a moral consensus. On any stance toward PBF or any other fighter, I've never hounded others to cosign my statements.

DUHHHH, I didn't say you did. When you pass comprehensions lessons, we'll get somewhere.

I'm saying you tow the partylines about Floyd Stans so that you don't feel alienated by the moral consensus.

You're scared of going against the grain and risking being unfashionable on here, even when going against the grain is warranted. Get it now, sweetheart?

I know there are good PBF fans here. But those who rep him respectably without sounding like stalkers are in the minority.

I don't think that's any more true than of other big name fighters at the height of their NSB fames. I can name plenty of good PBF fans, not a few, but plenty.

And I wasn't referring exclusively to Burner with that comment about labeling others as trolls. Around this forum, I see many PBF cheerleaders riding the high horse, spouting that as PBF is a pure boxer, they as his cheerleaders are "real" boxing fans, and anyone who doesn't love him as much as they do are "trolling, spamming, MMA fans," etc.

It isn't just PBF cheerleaders who pull that ****, that's my whole point. I see plenty of cheerleaders for other fighters saying 'Mayweather's a runner, that's not real boxing, real boxing fans want to see fighters close the show or go to to toe' blahbahblah. Why are you so selective in your reading, Clyde?

Even in quoting insults directed towards PBF not made by me, I wasn't going to voice that racial slur, so I simply mentioned the "gayweather" **** instead.

You voiced the dog-eater stuff? What's the difference? PBF Stans are the most annoying, right? Where do you see them making Facebook pages encouraging the public to boycott boxing events (in other words, damaging the sport)?

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-Floyd-Mayweather-Jr-until-he-fights-Manny-Pacquiao/178944637833?ref=search&sid=100000950454336.3974112454..1

When I entered this thread, I saw it was another recycled thread about a dead horse topic, and stated as such by laughing at that guy posting food pics. I then had to explain (surprise) to a PBF supporter that I am a PBF supporter too, just not one who's into recycled threads bashing his rivals.

How come you don't voice up about all the recycled anti-Floyd threads? Too concerned about your image, Clyde? Don't wanna rock those boats in case you look like a *****?

And I've told you, you're bitching about **** you admit you didn't see mate. I've gone at Pac stans and Margarito stans plenty of times. Stop pulling **** outta thin air just to complain about.

I'm not admitting anything. I'm saying it isn't there in any significant number. I read your posts, Clyde, I know what they concern.

And you're the one bringing it up this time, but Burner is a troll, and vouching for him as a good poster is a dumb move.

No, it isn't. Being a feverish Mayweather supporter alone doesn't make him a "troll". And he's cleaned up a lot of the tendencies you could have described as trollish, besides. He's a good poster, better than you by far.

You're saying I've not made more than a few posts about other stans than PBF's, then refusing to check your own facts. Drop it from the discussion if you aren't going to back it up.

I don't need to "check", because I read your posts! So I know what they concern!

And yet again, persistent theme here; you're looking for things to ***** about, and making yourself look like a daft **** by not checking your facts. That guy doesn't post on this section, but has gone out of his way numerous times to give props to PBF for his win.

MANGLER gave Floyd some grudging props, so I'll half give you that one - I say half because the guy was too cowed and abashed to come back to NSB and give some props . . . and because he added some bull**** about Floyd being "forced" to fight Shane, to disguise the fact Floyd just made him look a tool after a year of bitching.
And I'm aware that he quit NSB - another ***** pulling that 'NSB is full of idiots so I won't play' cop-out. Yeah, NSB's got its share of idiots - but it's one idiot down since he left it, the guy had nothing to say except repeat the same lines constantly and he acts like NSB should give a damn about losing him. Crap poster, good riddance, don't come back. I'll cheer when you're gone, too, Clyde, because you suck as hard as he does.

That guy didn't even have anything to do with our discussion, or this thread period, yet you're so gung ho on crying that you pulled it out of thin air. That's just the kind of whining I was talking about from PBF stans. Give it a rest mate.

Not out of thin air at all, it was apropos of a comment I made about a 'phony moral consensus', to which he's always belonged, so it was throughly appropriate IMO.

Awwwh, I'm a Stan now. Thanks for illustrating my point, man. I'm more of a boxing fan than you, yet I'm a Stan, apparently, because I can free-think and don't need to coddle myself in the safety of the moral consensus by constantly whining about other PBF fans.


Got any more wide hooks for me to counter with this quick ****, Clyde?

[Clyde Barrow]

DUHHHH, I didn't say you did. When you pass comprehensions lessons, we'll get somewhere.

I'm saying you tow the partylines about Floyd Stans so that you don't feel alienated by the moral consensus.

You're scared of going against the grain and risking being unfashionable on here, even when going against the grain is warranted. Get it now, sweetheart?


I don't think that's any more true than of other big name fighters at the height of their NSB fames. I can name plenty of good PBF fans, not a few, but plenty.






It isn't just PBF cheerleaders who pull that ****, that's my whole point. I see plenty of cheerleaders for other fighters saying 'Mayweather's a runner, that's not real boxing, real boxing fans want to see fighters close the show or go to to toe' blahbahblah. Why are you so selective in your reading, Clyde?


You voiced the dog-eater stuff? What's the difference? PBF Stans are the most annoying, right? Where do you see them making Facebook pages encouraging the public to boycott boxing events (in other words, damaging the sport).


How come you don't voice up about all the recycled anti-Floyd threads? Too concerned about your image, Clyde? Don't wanna rock those boats in case you look like a *****?


I'm not admitting anything. I'm saying it isn't there in any significant number. I read your posts, Clyde, I know what they concern.


No, it isn't. Being a feverish Mayweather supporter alone doesn't make him a "troll". And he's cleaned up a lot of the tendencies you could have described as trollish, besides. He's a good poster, better than you by far.


I don't need to "check", because I read your posts! So I know what they concern!


MANGLER gave Floyd some grudging props, so I'll half give you that one - I say "half" because the guy was too cowed and abashed to come back to NSB and give some props . . . and because he added some bull**** about Floyd being "forced" to fight Shane, to disguise the fact Floyd just made him look a tool after a year of bitching.
And I'm aware that he quit NSB - another ***** pulling that 'NSB is full of idiots so I won't play' cop-out. Yeah, NSB's got it's share of idiots - but it's one idiot down since he left it, the guy had nothing to say exept repeat the same lines constantly, anyway, and he acts like NSB should give a damn about losing him. Crap poster, good riddance, don't come back. I'll cheer when you're gone, too, Clyde, because you suck as hard as he does.


Not out of thin air at all, it was apropos of a comment I made about a 'phony moral consensus', to which he's always belonged, so it was throughly appropriate IMO.

Awwwh, I'm a Stan now. Thanks for illustrating my point, man. I'm more of a boxing fan than you, yet I'm a Stan, apparently, because I can free-think and don't need to coddle myself in the safety of the moral consensus by constantly whining about other PBF fans.


Got any more wide hooks for me to counter with this quick ****, Clyde?

Make up your mind. You accusing me of playing moral majority of one, or of not wanting to be shunned by what you think I see the moral majority as? Either way it's bollocks, but just checking.



The good PBF fans aren't seen as often, as they don't bother posting much anymore, and I don't blame them. For the most part, a pro PBF poster on NSB is nuthugging and not hearing anything about PBF not being invincible.

And I'm telling you why I think PBF stans are most annoying with their holier than thou bull****; not because they do it exclusively. I didn't say they did. but because they do it the most.

I don't use facebook, or twitter, or *******, or any of those sites. I don't follow what people do on there. But while we're on the subject, yes, the guys who took the time to make that group are dinnermashers.

Again, look around. I've **** on Perro/Puas/Manny, HateGiver/Getsumbrah, and others who've gone out of their way just to hate in unoriginal ways.

I liked Burner's posts when I first became aware of who he was. I don't call him a troll because he talks about PBF a lot. I call him a troll because he's a guy who repeats **** all the time, ignores anyone who ****s on his foolish "logic" with knowledgeable points, and brings a haughty vibe to flame wars that's laughable, seeing as how he's instigating **** with other people. He's a troll. Period.

Your argument is you've only seen me **** on PBF stans, so out of a few thousand posts, you think that's the only set of stans I've criticized. That's ****** as hell lad.

And lets not pursue a tangent on PBf getting props or not from a guy you don't like. My point is this thread has nothing to do with him. You brought his name up out of nowhere just to have something else to ***** about, without knowing he destroyed your argument against what you assumed was his opinion before you could even voice it. Check your facts before you speak to keep from looking foolish mate.

And I didn't label you a stan. I said that that constant whining without merit is what I've criticized PBF stans for. You had no clue Mangler had already gone on record saying he respects PBF's win over Mosley, but just for the sake of bitching, brought the guy's name up to attack him for being hypocritical. "So and so never gives Floyd credit! Hater!" That **** is daft, and pulling random guys into the argument is dumb as hell. Just like this bollocks about you whining about something because you haven't seen me say it.

Bottom line; if you don't know ****, don't say ****.