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  • Martin (Top Knowledge)
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    #11
    Lennox Lewis ducked Chris Byrd and John Ruiz?... LOL!... That gave me a giggle.

    Lennox Lewis won a TKO rd6 over Vitlai Klitscho, he was 39yrs old and decided to call it a day... What, did you want Lennox Lewis to fight well into his 40's?... LOL!...

    Lennox Lewis took on everyone and also made it his mission to avenge his two defeats!... The guy's a legend! He's not or never has been a "fight ducker".

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    • The Troll
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      #12
      Originally posted by martinwbc
      Lennox Lewis ducked Chris Byrd and John Ruiz?... LOL!... That gave me a giggle.

      Lennox Lewis won a TKO rd6 over Vitlai Klitscho, he was 39yrs old and decided to call it a day... What, did you want Lennox Lewis to fight well into his 40's?... LOL!...

      Lennox Lewis took on everyone and also made it his mission to avenge his two defeats!... The guy's a legend! He's not or never has been a "fight ducker".
      Lennox Lewis is overrated. What all time great fighters got their asses knocked out cold by very average fighters like Rahman and McCall.

      What are Lewis' best wins. A win over an extremely faded Tyson. A win over an extremely faded Holyfield. Shannon Briggs and Frank Bruno, he barely escaped with the descision against Mercer etc..His win over Ruddock was basically his most impressive win.
      Last edited by The Troll; 06-17-2005, 09:45 AM.

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      • drez24
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        #13
        Originally posted by (V)anny_P
        Barrera is ducking Pac fo 2 years now!


        how ta **** is Pac duckin JMM you ****in idiot?!
        I don't think pac is ducking JMM, but i definitely dont think that JMM ducked pac by pricing himself out of the rematch. The man was asking for 1.5M, $750k was a slap in the face, especially when pac was getting 3M (I think) for the fight.... the guy wasnt even the champ! JMM was just asking for what he thought he deserved, and I agree.

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        • Martin (Top Knowledge)
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          #14
          Originally posted by McKay
          Lennox Lewis is overrated. What all time great fighters got their asses knocked out cold by very average fighters like Rahman and McCall.

          What are Lewis' best wins. A win over an extremely faded Tyson. A win over an extremely faded Holyfield. Shannon Briggs and Frank Bruno, he barely escaped with the descision against Mercer etc..His win over Ruddock was basically his most impressive win.
          How about ruling the heavyweight division for a decade? Unifying the belts etc...

          Actually I'm not gonna entertain a discussion about this, I can't be bothered to spend my time ****ing my head against a brick wall... LOL!...

          Don't worry about it Mckay!...

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          • The Troll
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            #15
            Originally posted by martinwbc
            How about ruling the heavyweight division for a decade? Unifying the belts etc...

            Actually I'm not gonna entertain a discussion about this, I can't be bothered to spend my time ****ing my head against a brick wall... LOL!...

            Don't worry about it Mckay!...
            He got the WBC title in an eliminator because Tyson dropped it to fight Holyfield. Holyfield was a more highly regarded fighter at that time then was Lewis. Then Lewis got the other two belts from an extremely faded Holyfield who got them from knocking out Michael Moore and the other from Tyson.

            So please explain this concept of "ruling the heavyweight division for a decade thing again"

            HOlyfield was Undisputed Champion until Bowe. Than Bowe vacated the WBC. Lewis got the WBC. Then Lewis lost the WBC to McCall. Then Tyson ended up with the WBC and the WBA. Tyson lost the WBA to Holyfield. Holyfield got the IBF from Moore. Then Lewis beat the old man Holyfield for the other 2 belts. Hardly dominating for a decade. Then you throw in the fact he got his ass dropped by the very average fighter Hasim Rahman during the time when he did have the undisputed title.
            Last edited by The Troll; 06-17-2005, 09:53 AM.

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            • Manny_P
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              #16
              Originally posted by drez24
              I don't think pac is ducking JMM, but i definitely dont think that JMM ducked pac by pricing himself out of the rematch. The man was asking for 1.5M, $750k was a slap in the face, especially when pac was getting 3M (I think) for the fight.... the guy wasnt even the champ! JMM was just asking for what he thought he deserved, and I agree.

              Facts:

              Pac was gonna get 900k if he fought JMM. It woulda been on HBO After Dark.

              JMM would get 750k fo reason bein that Pac is the bigga draw fo the fight.




              I think he priced himself out by askin 1.5mil fo an HBO After Dark event. Pac only got 1.75 mil when he fought Morales on PPV after all.

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              • TheEvilSaint
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                #17
                Originally posted by McKay
                Winky can Jab that is about it. He is actually somewhat one-dimensional compared to Taylor. Taylor can fight in alot of different styles. He is a much better puncher than Wright and he is just overall better than Wright in practically every area. He is also not really unexperienced he has had over 25 pro fights. I dont think you have seen many Taylor fights, this guy is really good. Taylor would thrash Wright easy in my opinion. He will stop Hopkins relatively easy in opinion as well.

                Wright beating Trinidad was more of a case of Trinidad being a faded fighter than Wright being a great fighter. Wright is a decent fighter but by no means great. Taylor has the potential to be a "great" fighter. And very soon he will be undisputed middleweight champion. I only hope he keeps the belts the together and makes defences of the Undisputed title.
                true, winky's got a jab. hes also got a good chin, awsome defense, plenty of stamina, and excellent speed. however, the only good fighters that winky's fought are fernando vargas (L UD), shane mosley (W UD, W MD), and tito trinidad (W UD). he hasnt been tested by a TRUE A grade figher like hopkins or de la hoya or jermain taylor.

                as for my comment on taylor: hes unproven. thats all ill say about him right now. hes not ready for hopkins.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
                  true, winky's got a jab. hes also got a good chin, awsome defense, plenty of stamina, and excellent speed. however, the only good fighters that winky's fought are fernando vargas (L UD), shane mosley (W UD, W MD), and tito trinidad (W UD). he hasnt been tested by a TRUE A grade figher like hopkins or de la hoya or jermain taylor.

                  as for my comment on taylor: hes unproven. thats all ill say about him right now. hes not ready for hopkins.
                  He has average speed, an average chin, average power, average overall skills, good defence, and a good jab. Like I said he is limited compared to Taylor. Taylor also matches up better against Hopkins in my opinion. Taylor hits with bad intentions and he is in my opinion more dynamic than Wright who relies too much on his right jab alone. His left hand is not very good either (Wrights.)
                  Last edited by The Troll; 06-17-2005, 01:48 PM.

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                  • TheEvilSaint
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by McKay
                    He has average speed, an average chin, average power, average overall skills, good defence, and good jab. Like I said he is limited compared to Taylor. Taylor also matches up better against Hopkins in my opinion. Taylor hits with bad intentions and he in my opinion more dynamic than Wright who relies too much on his jab alone, and has lack of power.
                    if what u say is true, y is it that so many fighters are dodging winky and taylor's getting a title shot when he hasnt fought anybody worth mentioning?

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                    • The Troll
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
                      if what u say is true, y is it that so many fighters are dodging winky and taylor's getting a title shot when he hasnt fought anybody worth mentioning?
                      For one thing Wright's style is is defensive and boring to alot of people. He has a low KO percentage.

                      Another thing, who is actually dodging Wright. Trinidad just fought him and now De La Hoya is looking for a fight with him. What else more could Wright want?

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