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  • *******s = Justin Bieber fans.



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    • Pacquiao can walk through bullets!

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      • BPP is a funny dude and he knows why. Anyways though, Paulie is always a cool cat to me wether you love him or hate him. Nate Campbell also said the same thing. He didnt say that Pac would win but he said Floyd would kill Pac and the person asked him about how alot of people think Pac's workrate could get to Floyd and Nate said that if he takes that test with that needle in his arm, that work rate will came way down. That **** was so funny

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        • Originally posted by Hannibal Barca View Post
          if they did indeed make it easier for Pac, does he still get full credit for those fights?

          Btw, I personally saw a noticeable power increase after the second JMM fight. Just look at the Cotto and JMM fights, and how much his punches have a much different effect.

          Did you now?....

          The two clean shots he landed on JMM knocked him down, wobbled him badly.

          In the Cotto fight, I guess punch placement counts for nothing now-a-days...

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          • pacs a beast floyds a technician take the test and fight

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            • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
              Pauli Malignaggi is going in on Manny Pacquiao. I saw a few of
              Manny's old fights where he got dropped by a body punch and
              another to the jaw and was out with his eyes crossed in the 1st
              round at the lower weights. Couldn't even put Marquez out after
              dropping him 4 times in two fights and took 10 rounds to put a
              bloodied punching bag like David Diaz out but now he is dropping
              Cotto with ease when Cotto couldn't even get dropped by Mosley
              and it took Margarito 10/11 rounds to stop Cotto with the possibility
              of plaster in his wraps. I don't know if Manny is using or not but
              his refusal to agree to the 14 day cut off and look to fight someone
              else if Floyd don't drop the demand is suspect.
              agreed.

              i can't say emphatically that he is on something, but it looks suspect in the very least.

              "i don't know what he's on, but it's some strong stuff." - P.M.

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              • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                Pauli Malignaggi is going in on Manny Pacquiao. I saw a few of
                Manny's old fights where he got dropped by a body punch and
                another to the jaw and was out with his eyes crossed in the 1st
                round at the lower weights. Couldn't even put Marquez out after
                dropping him 4 times in two fights and took 10 rounds to put a
                bloodied punching bag like David Diaz out but now he is dropping
                Cotto with ease when Cotto couldn't even get dropped by Mosley
                and it took Margarito 10/11 rounds to stop Cotto with the possibility
                of plaster in his wraps. I don't know if Manny is using or not but
                his refusal to agree to the 14 day cut off and look to fight someone
                else if Floyd don't drop the demand is suspect.
                Cotto was easy pickings by the time he fought Pacquiao, whatever was left of him after Margarito Clottey took the rest to the 90 yard line leaving just enough for Pacquiao to come in and score an easy touchdown, and to ensure this happened you make Cotto come down to 145 to mentally where him out before the fight even starts so your left with a punching bag that hits hard but can't take shots anymore.

                If I am right it will take Foreman 8 rounds to finish off whatever is left of Cotto unless Steward gave pump some new life into him but I think he was brought in to late IMO. Make no mistake I think Cotto is a warrior but Arum help screw him over too many times and they both got greedy.

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                • Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S View Post
                  I didn't see it either but lets really look at this for a second to see why pac was able to do what he did

                  Oscar De Le Hoya-
                  He hadn't made WW in several years and to top it off he tried to prove a point coming in lighter than Manny. He didn't even rehydrate up to 160 like most predicted (I truly believe this was intentional on Oscars part) and with all things considered, including his age and the fact he has never looked good against a southpaw, are we suprised that Pac, the smaller fighter was able to overwhelm him....leading to a TKO stoppage?


                  Ricky Hatton-
                  All before the fight we heard that Ricky is bigger and will bully Manny. Hatton feed into that and came face forward at Pac with no footwork. He didn't even fight Floyd like that, and just came at Manny, an explosive puncher, without any regard for defense. Are we really suprised that Manny Knocked him the **** out...lol?

                  Miguel Cotto-
                  Again another case of a guy not respecting Pac's power. Miguel actually had a good game plan, contrarty to popular belief, but abandoned it, and tried to brawl with Manny. He got caught and latter folded once he found out he couldn't hurt Manny. The rest was just a formality, leading to Cotto being stopped. If anything, this was the most shocking fight of all of them, but if Miguel better prepared mental, it would have been a totally different fight.


                  Joshua Clottey-
                  Dude stayed in a shell and let Manny tee off on him. No one should be suprised as Manny has energy for days


                  So in conclusion, these guys made it easier for Pac than it had to be. I mean Its like someone playing off of Kobe or Lebron and being surprise when they light you up for 50pts. Atleast thats how I look at it.
                  Good breakdown Osiris. For the bolded, if anything I think it showed that Pac got frustrated by Cottos constant movement in the last few rounds, and would be his biggest problem against FMJ... IMO. How he would handle FMJs movement is what has me interested.


                  Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
                  last night I talked to my uncle on the phone for about 3 hours about NOTHING but boxing....he's about 54 yrs old now and have followed the sport since he was about 8 yrs old....he schools me on the history of the oldschool Philly fighters...in fact, he was in the building the night Boogaloo Watts gave the great Marvin Hagler his first lost....he was in the Garden on the night Joe beat Ali...a real boxing grey head ....anyway, he told me Shane's ONLY chance to win against Floyd would be in the first half of the fight....he told me to bet on Floyd but I went with Shane....last night he laughed at me and told me that Manny Pacquiao will BEAT Floyd....I laughed at him and told him he's crazy!!...scary thing is that unc hasn't got a fight wrong since Tyson-Douglass...(well thats what I'm hearin').....I'm goin' to Philly in a few weeks and I'll try to get him to drop some knowledge and upload it on to youtube....just wanted to share that, not sayin it means anything....I just found it interesting that somebody with so much boxing knowledge would pick Manny to beat Floyd!!
                  Your Uncle sounds very knowledgable and I would be interested to hear what he tells you his reasons behind Pac over FMJ would be.

                  Originally posted by wengz2002 View Post
                  I've have no problem with this fight bro~ If Pac-Mayweather doesn't come around... Pac-Mosley is a good barometer as to who's better between Pac & Money!


                  Pac & May have 3 common opponents so far: Marquez, dela Hoya, Haton!

                  So far Pac wins were much impressive...
                  If Pac K.O. Mosley, it will just show that Pac is really better than Money...
                  I personally disagree... I think a fight for Pac with Shane is a lose/lose situation for him. If he fights Shane, some will continue to say that Pac fights FMJ leftovers. If he beats or even KOs Shane and they don't do OST they will say it's because he (possibly) cheated. If they do take OST and he loses they will say it's because he "couldn't take his PEDs". Although I think it would be an awesome fight, it wouldn't fair well with some of the fans for those reasons.

                  All I know is this fight needs to happen, for the fans. Negotiations need to be kept private until after the FINAL result. I hope there is an acceptable result for both parties, and I hope they (notably Arum/Roach) take their egos out of the equation. If that doesn't happen then I can't see this fight happening any time in the near future, if at all.

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                  • Funny how 98% of the people on this board that "think" Pac is on roids also just happen to be floyd fans... Anyways paulie just starving for attention. After Khan finishes him off he will be a complete nobody that no one cares about! This is his last hoorah!

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                    • Manny pacquiao

                      WITH THE TEST OR WITHOUT TEST MANNY PACQUIAO WILL KO...
                      ALL TALK CRYBABY MAYWEATHER

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