There is not an ATG in 130-147 that would have an easy time with Floyd.

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  • AKATheMack
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    #51
    Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
    Its not even the straight right but go back and watch how Hearns throw it. Its a looping overhand right that is impossible to roll with a shoulder roll defense. Tommy would set it up perfect and Floyd would never see it coming.
    Without sounding like I'm degrading Floyd, but I think Hearns beats him with one hand. If Hearns kept his right hand tucked to his chin and only used the left hand I still dont see Floyd being able to beat him. Look at Leonards face after the fight his jab is just as accurate as Mayweathers right hand, its quite a bit longer and has more on it. I cant see Floyd being able to get inside of that jab other than to tie up and maybe land a few quick body punches. Its not just about skill on this one the size difference plays a big factor with someone who knows how to use it.

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      #52
      Originally posted by No Ceilings
      Like yall are forgetting what gave Tommy so many problems with Leonard.


      HANDSPEED!!!

      He made Tommy think and play defense. Just like Floyd does. He makes fighters think. Tommy was troubled by that handspeed. He also cant fight goin backwards. Now Floyd have the power that SRL has naw. But he would not just stay outside he would have to use Tommy weakness against him.
      SRL was behind on scorecards when he knocked Heanrs out in the 14th round......PLus hes a great combo thrower which Floyd isnt and finished him off

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        #53
        Originally posted by No Ceilings
        Like yall are forgetting what gave Tommy so many problems with Leonard.


        HANDSPEED!!!

        He made Tommy think and play defense. Just like Floyd does. He makes fighters think. Tommy was troubled by that handspeed. He also cant fight goin backwards. Now Floyd have the power that SRL has naw. But he would not just stay outside he would have to use Tommy weakness against him.
        May does not use his speed in the same way as Leonard.He also does not fight the same Leonard had to risk it all to beat hearns.Do you think May would have risk it?

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          #54
          Originally posted by No Ceilings
          Like yall are forgetting what gave Tommy so many problems with Leonard.


          HANDSPEED!!!

          He made Tommy think and play defense. Just like Floyd does. He makes fighters think. Tommy was troubled by that handspeed. He also cant fight goin backwards. Now Floyd have the power that SRL has naw. But he would not just stay outside he would have to use Tommy weakness against him.
          Ray was getting outboxed, and had success when he brawled. Floyd cannot brawl. He also doesn't throw combos. As much as you seem to think Floyd can do anything, he can't. He is not a brawler, he is not a combination puncher, and he doesn't have much power. He couldn't time right hands over Hearns's reach, the only effective thing he could do is make Hearns miss but he would have IMMENSE trouble scoring back.

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            #55
            Originally posted by No Ceilings
            I no longer take anything anyone says about Ray Robinson seriously anymore. WW footage doesnt even exist on him. Most only watched youtube highlights and never seen a real fight. Just people on NSB being sheep. Hes not the greatest fighter ever and hes not the best fighter ever. Thats just non sense.

            He wanted no parts of the Extremely, quick and accurate Charlie Burley for good reason.
            Wow so let me ask you in you opinion who is?Is Floyd the best?

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            • Khalid X
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              #56
              Originally posted by yevskiy426
              Hell yea WW's back then were huge and menacing. I dont see how Floyd could have done anything to him....people here are saying Floyd has power but it wont do anything againt Hearns
              Man I'm done debating with burner. I mean its plain ridiculous because they see one flaw or one fight in which a guy didn't look hot and think Floyd handles them. How bout I bring up Zab speed giving Floyd problems and because of it Terry Norris beats Floyd. How bout I mention how Castillo used body work to arguable beat Floyd and that because of that, Duran would KO Floyd in 12 rounds.

              The problem with these Floyd fans is they don't acknowledge a single weakness, bad fight etc from Floyd and think he is invincible. Every fighter has weaknesses and Floyd has several. They will never see it because they are blinded etc..yet they go outta there way to point out ATG as an excuse as to why Floyd beats them.

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              • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                #57
                Originally posted by romebyko
                Wow so let me ask you in you opinion who is?Is Floyd the best?

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                  Man I'm done debating with burner. I mean its plain ridiculous because they see one flaw or one fight in which a guy didn't look hot and think Floyd handles them. How bout I bring up Zab speed giving Floyd problems and because of it Terry Norris beats Floyd. How bout I mention how Castillo used body work to arguable beat Floyd and that because of that, Duran would KO Floyd in 12 rounds.

                  The problem with these Floyd fans is they don't acknowledge a single weakness, bad fight etc from Floyd and think he is invincible. Every fighter has weaknesses and Floyd has several. They will never see it because they are blinded etc..yet they go outta there way to point out ATG as an excuse as to why Floyd beats them.
                  Please dont make up stuff bro. I was THEE only person on here who said Williams would beat him.

                  The only person on here who said Winky would beat him. If you want to adress what I said feel free. But dont make up stuff about me.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by AKATheMack
                    Without sounding like I'm degrading Floyd, but I think Hearns beats him with one hand. If Hearns kept his right hand tucked to his chin and only used the left hand I still dont see Floyd being able to beat him. Look at Leonards face after the fight his jab is just as accurate as Mayweathers right hand, its quite a bit longer and has more on it. I cant see Floyd being able to get inside of that jab other than to tie up and maybe land a few quick body punches. Its not just about skill on this one the size difference plays a big factor with someone who knows how to use it.

                    I see what you are saying. Hearns jab was so ****in crisp and accurate. Not only that but his reach was 78 inches or something ridiculous like that. The jab alone would **** with Floyds soul. Also add to the fact the way Hearns throw that right and how it comes down over the top.....Floyd would never see that punch coming.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by No Ceilings
                      Please dont make up stuff bro. I was THEE only person on here who said Williams would beat him.

                      The only person on here who said Winky would beat him. If you want to adress what I said feel free. But dont make up stuff about me.
                      I was speaking in general about Floyd fans. I will say this though your were doing something similar in pointing out fights in which Hearns had issues. Do you honestly think thats fair considering that Floyd has struggled and looked bad as well....especially against lesser fighters?

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