Comments Thread For: Wladimir Klitschko-David Haye is Heading To Germany

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  • Pirao
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    #61
    Originally posted by Boxing Sage
    How the hell do the Klitschko's expect the heavy weight division to regain it's prominence if they keep fighting in Germany.
    What the **** is your point?

    Originally posted by UND
    Haye might aswell hand his WBA belt over if its in germany!
    Yeah it should be in England so Wlad gets a fair shake, right?

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    • Dave Rado
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      #62
      Originally posted by yevskiy426
      Yea i agree, home towns do favor thier fighters but what do you expect?
      You must have misread my post, because you say you agree with it and you then flatly contradict the whole point I was trying to make.

      My point was that Haye got the decision in Germany against Valuev, despite the fact that it was an extremely close fight which even some British commentators scored to Valuev. That proves once and for all that provided the ref and judges are from neutral countries, anyone can get a fair decision in Germany.

      I would also make the further point that incompetent judges or refs are going to be incompetent regardless of where the fight is held, but that is a completely separate issue to bias. Provided the ref and judges are from neutral countries, there is no reason to suspect hometown bias. The judge who scored the Williams-Martinez fight 119-110 for Williams wasn't guilty of hometown bias, he was just incompetent.

      But I repeat, Haye is just as likely to get a fair decision in Germany as he is in the USA or anywhere else, provided the ref and judges are all from neutral countries - and the Valuev fight proves that.

      And the ref and judges will be from neutral countries if Haye fights Wlad, so where is fight is held is immaterial.

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      • Hitman932
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        #63
        Originally posted by Dave Rado
        One thing that annoys me is that no one ever calls Haye on it. I've never seen one boxing writer in an interview ask him how anyone with such low activity can possibly claim to be the saviour of the division.

        Also, I've never seen any boxing writer ask him how anyone who plans to retire immediately after unifying (even if he is capable of unifying, which I doubt) could possibly be the saviour of the division. To be the saviour of the division he'd need to stay at the top fighting excitingly for many years.
        Amen. I couldn't agree more with a post.

        Especially the 2nd part. It really pisses me off when Haye fans infer that a Haye victory over the Klitschkos will somehow enliven the division and take it to a whole new level. This despite the fact that Wladimir probably plans on staying in the sport longer than Haye.

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        • Hitman932
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          #64
          The only reason Haye fans should be upset that it is Germany is that unlike in England Haye would likely get DQ'd for the repeated rabbit puches he hit Ruiz with.

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          • D-MiZe
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            #65
            The fight could be on fucking Pluto for all I care, it's not going 12 rounds.

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            • jtiger78
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              #66
              haye will get KOd in 9 rounds

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              • mathed
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                #67
                This will be a great fight. I like Haye and think he could pull an upset but my logic tells me that Wlad will be too much, late KO for Wlad rds 10-12

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                • Dave Rado
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Hitman932
                  The only reason Haye fans should be upset that it is Germany is that unlike in England Haye would likely get DQ'd for the repeated rabbit puches he hit Ruiz with.
                  That ref was Panamanian, not British, and if he'd refereed the fight in Germany he'd have done the same thing. That was just incompetence, not hometown bias. As I keep saying, as long the ref and judges are from neutral countries, which they will be, then where the fight is held is irrelevant.

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                  • SoldierWarrior
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by lfc19titles
                    Huge mistake by Haye noway will he get a fair decision in Germany, the fight should be held in a neutral place
                    Like he could outpoint Wlad anyways, only way Haye wins is by knockout anyways. He isn't talented enough to outpoint Wlad. No one at heavyweight is, Wlad has more skills then anyone at heavyweight right now. It's just his chin that has the question. I can't wait until Wlad beats the **** out of this clown.

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                    • DanielSam
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                      #70
                      "According to reports in the Russian press" what the **** could the russians possibly know about Haye-Klit that noone else does

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