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  • Doctor_Tenma
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    #1

    The cutoff date isn't the only issue.

    For one, Mayweather wants Pacquiao to take the full. But we're also forgetting that Pacquiao is only willing to take 3 blood tests.




    Top Rank boss Bob Arum issued a statement on Wednesday saying Manny Pacquiao is agreeable to taking three blood tests and as many random urine tests requested in hopes of reaching a deal to fight Floyd Mayweather on March 13 in Las Vegas.

    Arum issued his statement in response to a statement released by Mayweather Promotions late Tuesday, saying the proposed welterweight showdown was in jeopardy because Pacquiao would not agree to Olympic-style blood testing.

    "Let’s be very clear on the real issues we differ on," Arum said in his statement. "It’s not about being tested. Manny is onboard with that since it’s such a major concern of Floyd Mayweather, Jr. It’s about who does the testing and the scheduling of the procedures. Manny will submit to as many random urine tests requested. Regarding the blood tests, he will subject himself to three tests; one given in January during the week the fight is formally announced, one thirty days from the fight, no later than February 13, and the final one immediately following the fight, in Manny’s locker room. The major issue related to the testing rests with which independent agency will administer these tests. The United States Anti Doping Agency (USADA) cannot do it because they will not amend its procedures to accommodate the blood testing schedule we have outlined. USADA, under its guidelines, would have the right to administer random blood tests as many times as they want up to weigh-in day and that is ludicrous.

    "Our suggestion is to utilize any of the independent agencies that work with the National Football League, the National Basketball Association or Major League Baseball, since they administer drug testing for their professional athletes."

    Mayweather's adviser Leonard Ellerbe told the Post his camp isn't going to budge on its demand for Olympic style testing because "both fighters would be subjected to it." Floyd Mayweather Sr. suggested last September that Pacquiao was using performance enhancing drugs to move up four weight classes over the last two years.

    Added Ellerbe: "They're saying he's superstitious about blood and needles, but he has tattoos all over his body. So which one is it? We're not talking about a blood transfusion. We're talking about a teaspoon of blood 3 to 5 times over a 10-week period."
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    #2
    Damn, just 3, and he wants a cut off date?

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #3
      Originally posted by Loccy
      Damn, just 3, and he wants a cut off date?
      People are really ignoring this. One before the kick off press conference. One after the fight. So...


      ONLY one during training? As a writer once said "That gap is big enough to fit a cheating elephant".

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        #4
        You're right its not the only issue.

        The real issue is why Mayweather wants to sabotage an opponent with drug testing these days?


        Is he not very confident in his abilities?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Dick Buffman
          You're right its not the only issue.

          The real issue is why Mayweather wants to sabotage an opponent with drug testing these days?


          Is he not very confident in his abilities?
          Is ****m not very confident in his opponents, in that he checked Margarito, Tito, and recently Mayweather's wrappings? You ask a ****** question.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
            Is ****m not very confident in his opponents, in that he checked Margarito, Tito, and recently Mayweather's wrappings? You ask a ****** question.
            Checking a guys handwraps for 5 minutes and going through all that bull**** testing is not the same thing.

            I know you well enough to know you know damn well Mayweather could give a **** about the sport.

            Its all about him and he's said it himself over and over.


            You know its all about 1 word.

            Sabotage.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
              Is ****m not very confident in his opponents, in that he checked Margarito, Tito, and recently Mayweather's wrappings? You ask a ****** question.
              Good point and thread.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                For one, Mayweather wants Pacquiao to take the full. But we're also forgetting that Pacquiao is only willing to take 3 blood tests.




                Top Rank boss Bob Arum issued a statement on Wednesday saying Manny Pacquiao is agreeable to taking three blood tests and as many random urine tests requested in hopes of reaching a deal to fight Floyd Mayweather on March 13 in Las Vegas.

                Arum issued his statement in response to a statement released by Mayweather Promotions late Tuesday, saying the proposed welterweight showdown was in jeopardy because Pacquiao would not agree to Olympic-style blood testing.

                "Let’s be very clear on the real issues we differ on," Arum said in his statement. "It’s not about being tested. Manny is onboard with that since it’s such a major concern of Floyd Mayweather, Jr. It’s about who does the testing and the scheduling of the procedures. Manny will submit to as many random urine tests requested. Regarding the blood tests, he will subject himself to three tests; one given in January during the week the fight is formally announced, one thirty days from the fight, no later than February 13, and the final one immediately following the fight, in Manny’s locker room. The major issue related to the testing rests with which independent agency will administer these tests. The United States Anti Doping Agency (USADA) cannot do it because they will not amend its procedures to accommodate the blood testing schedule we have outlined. USADA, under its guidelines, would have the right to administer random blood tests as many times as they want up to weigh-in day and that is ludicrous.

                "Our suggestion is to utilize any of the independent agencies that work with the National Football League, the National Basketball Association or Major League Baseball, since they administer drug testing for their professional athletes."

                Mayweather's adviser Leonard Ellerbe told the Post his camp isn't going to budge on its demand for Olympic style testing because "both fighters would be subjected to it." Floyd Mayweather Sr. suggested last September that Pacquiao was using performance enhancing drugs to move up four weight classes over the last two years.

                Added Ellerbe: "They're saying he's superstitious about blood and needles, but he has tattoos all over his body. So which one is it? We're not talking about a blood transfusion. We're talking about a teaspoon of blood 3 to 5 times over a 10-week period."
                When did Arum say that? Because the article says "one in January during the week the fight is formally announced".

                Don't you think things might have changed since then?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dick Buffman
                  Checking a guys handwraps for 5 minutes and going through all that bull**** testing is not the same thing.

                  I know you well enough to know you know damn well Mayweather could give a **** about the sport.

                  Its all about him and he's said it himself over and over.


                  You know its all about 1 word.

                  Sabotage.
                  Regardless of what Mayweather is in it for, he's contributing to the cleanliness of the sport.


                  By Lance Pugmire
                  April 29, 2010

                  Manny Pacquiao has said he's willing to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. as long as any drug-testing policy is determined by a state commission, and not forced upon him like the independent program Mayweather and Shane Mosley agreed to for their Saturday welterweight title bout.

                  Now, the Nevada State Athletic Commission will consider adding a blood-testing program similar to the one Mayweather and Mosley are following.
                  Keith Kizer, the Nevada commission's executive director, said Thursday the commission will conduct a mid-May hearing to explore the effectiveness of the Mayweather-Mosley blood-and urine-testing program conducted by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency. USADA head Travis Tygart is expected to attend the Nevada hearing and update commissioners about progress in detecting the use of performance-enhancing Human Growth Hormone and energy boosting EPO.

                  The Mayweather-Mosley promotion paid in excess of $20,000 for the agency to conduct the fighters' drug tests. Mosley said this week he's already submitted eight urine and four blood samples.

                  "A lot can be learned from what's occurred from Mosley-Mayweather and we want to mine that information," Kizer said. "It will depend on what the experts say, but if [a push for blood testing] is stressed, then I would think we'd act. If there's a way to improve our drug testing every year, we've proven we'll do it."

                  Kizer said it's feasible Nevada will a have blood testing program in place before the fall.

                  Negotiations for a Pacquiao-Mayweather bout fell apart when the fighters' camps squabbled over how close to a fight blood tests would take place. Pacquiao complained that blood draws weakened him, while Mayweather's camp suggested the Filipino star used performance-enhancing drugs.

                  Mayweather's co-promoter Richard Schaefer applauded Nevada's move toward becoming the first state commission to incorporate blood testing. "To not have the most thorough testing methods is inexcusable," he said.

                  And Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum said, "Whatever the commission rules are, we'll follow them."

                  Many logistics would still need to be resolved: Who will pay for the blood tests? How often will they be employed? How would a fighter who tested positive be penalized?

                  Meanwhile, Mayweather remains a 4-to-1 favorite to beat Mosley in their bout Saturday, according to the MGM/Mirage Race and Sports Book, although most bettors are wagering the fight will go the distance.

                  Pacquiao, in the midst of campaigning for a congressional seat in the Philippines, is picking Mosley to beat Mayweather. His close friend, Winchell Campos said, Pacquiao "likes Mosley's power and speed and thinks he'll have a better plan."

                  Regardless of who wins, both will do well financially.

                  Kizer announced Mayweather will earn a minimum of $22.5 million for the fight before pay-per-view profits, and that Mosley will earn up to $7 million.

                  Next fight?

                  If Mayweather beats Mosley, there will be significant work ahead to secure the super-fight the boxing world has clamored for.

                  Arum wants a Pacquiao-Mayweather bout at Cowboys Stadium in Texas, noting, "I'd rather do it before 108,000 people in a stadium than 15,000 in an arena."

                  Schaefer responded, "The Las Vegas environment is much more conducive to staging a major pay-per-view, look at the record numbers we did [in 2007] with Mayweather-De La Hoya. The MGM Grand has built up a reputation as being the fight capital of the world."

                  Source: LA Times

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dick Buffman
                    You're right its not the only issue.

                    The real issue is why Mayweather wants to sabotage an opponent with drug testing these days?


                    Is he not very confident in his abilities?
                    yup sure isnt, i have never seen a fighter who is not very confident in his abilities like mayweather

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