Is Cleaning Up The Sport With OST...

[flour]

theres nothing wrong with the OST demands, it has a good intention for the sport

however,

OST is not yet required by NSAC so if fighters dont wanna go thru it, we cant blame them. by the time that ost is mandated by nsac then fighters refuse to do it, thats a different story

agreed

you can crusade all u want but if someone doesnt wanna go through with it and it's not a requirment nor was he found to be on peds or some kind of inconclusive urine test that made 1 say " ok this dude is onto something we need a blood test" then you cant keep asking for the test at the expense of the fight and rob me off what i and everyone else wants to see

otherwise you just looking like you scared

mayweather is better off saying something along the lines of, ok i asked for a test pac didnt want it but i do want to clean up the sport, i guarantee you this dude would bring more fans and have pacfans on his side..

if they wont respect him for how they see him as a "boring" potshotter, they can respect him for what he is trying to do

people will actually love that, regardless if he wins or loses, both pac and floyd will go down as ATG regardless of who wins but look at this dumb ***ing prick draining opponents who r old and wanting to drain manny

hes a blood draining ***** thats all he is, he dont know how to handle his business positively, no wonder b-hop call him a child whos a braggart irregardless of his boxing skills... what a joke

[infamous larryx]

if floyd thinks hes on something and manny wont take the test..then its no fight..why fight someone on ped's??

[jri9d0]

100% TRUE.. Fighters have already been caught cheating regardless.. The rules have already been intact so why change them now when Floyd wants them changed..

That was precisely my point, if there are already rules in place that take measures against these actions and have already been PROVEN in high profile fights (i.e. Vargas/Toney to name a few) then why change them/add to it?

By the way I'm not against OST if the NSAC would implement it but it shouldn't based on just assumptions about a fighter...

[jqSide]

...more important than boxing presenting PAC-PBF right now?



the public is demanding this fight and both sides have their reasons on why or why not there should be additional testing



so, would guys (fight fans) rather have a message be sent that boxing needs to be cleaned up and this fight get ditched (assuming they dont find a compromise) ?

OR

do you guys believe that the best thing boxing can do for itself right now is make this fight happen?

Hypocrisy is the message that was sent in the Mosley May fight. No OST for the undercards.

The current rules are good enough for me. I don't believe PEDs will do wonders.

Make the fight happen.

[dans]

I don't understand, if the NSAC rules found Fernando Vargas dirty after a fight, (hell even James Toney) then what's wrong with the drug testing rules that already in place?

Are they any less effective?

Shane Mosley was never found dirty by that same commission. Neither was Evander Holyfield.

If you stick a net with big holes in the water, you'll catch some fish, but some will slide through..

If you stick a net with microscopic holes in the water, you'll catch way more fish and barely any get through.

OST=More testing, more often, with better results.

How is more testing, more often, less effective?

I trust a Federal anti-doping agencies standards more than a state-run agency located in Nevada. Olympic athletes take these tests all the time, because it's the most effecitve, not because they're trying to be intrusive.

[JM1]

if floyd thinks hes on something and manny wont take the test..then its no fight..why fight someone on ped's??

so just because the mayweathers think that pac is on peds then he is certainly on peds??

floyd sr thought that oscar should have won when he fought floyd jr, do you believe that too?

try reading my first post larry

[DE100]

didnt you understand the question? read the first post then try again

Yeah I understood it, and choose not to play the ****** game the TS wants to play. Who cares which is more important when both can be done with no problem. Take random tests, then fight. Simple

[dans]

nothing bad about it. got a question though, from now on would you always wonder if a fighter is on roids if beats up and upsets a favored opponent if they only followed the drug testing used by the commission?

No, but I always couldn't be certain. Could you?

[jri9d0]

Shane Mosley was never found dirty by that same commission. Neither was Evander Holyfield.

If you stick a net with big holes in the water, you'll catch some fish, but some will slide through..

If you stick a net with microscopic holes in the water, you'll catch way more fish and barely any get through.

OST=More testing, more often, with better results.

How is more testing, more often, less effective?

I trust a Federal anti-doping agencies standards more than a state-run agency located in Nevada. Olympic athletes take these tests all the time, because it's the most effecitve, not because they're trying to be intrusive.

That said, how many test has Manny failed that would merit OST?

[trainhard_187]

Cleaning up the sport is more important then Mayweather Pacquiao. I'm dead serious.

The sport has it rules and fighters have already been caught ex. Toney, Vargas, Mosley, the list goes on...

If the OST is in play now then we will NEVER know if their have been ATG fighters in the past that have gotten away with using PED's.

So fighter like Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Tyson, the list goes on are on PED's since they all NEVER took the OST drug test but came clean with the NSAC style test?