Byrd vs. Oquendo: A Legitimate Draw?

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  • !! Anorak
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    Byrd vs. Oquendo: A Legitimate Draw?

    ... except it wasn't one.

    Apologies for the untopicality of the thread (I'm talking about a fight that's nearly two years old after all, and I'm sure was debated to death at the time) but I've only just seen it. The demand for Byrd fights is such that the only place they place them over here is when they're interrogating prisoners.

    Yet I was watching and scoring the whole way, thinking this was the one where Byrd scored a controversial draw. I had no problem with that - Fres was knackered in the last three rounds, so Byrd clocked them up no problem. (And with Foreman saying the referee was doing "Okey-Doke" against Fres... I disagree. While Eddie Cotton was one of the most biased referees I've ever seen in the Tyson-Lewis match, Oquendo clearly hit Byrd twice after the break when Cotton took him to the side).

    With those three rounds, all Byrd had to have done was win three of the proceeding nine. Some were close anyway, but I definitely gave him three of them, particularly the first. So a 114-114 verdict... no problem.

    But Byrd won? By 117-111 on one scorecard? What's that all about? Admittedly, in between Oquendo's holding, shoulder-barging and roughhouse tactics Byrd's boxing could have swung it, maybe, but 117-111? And why did Byrd look so pissed off at the end?




    Finally is, it just me or does Byrd always look like he's trying to listen to an invisible radio when he fights?






    Let's have a poll!
  • !! Anorak
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    Okay, AOL crashed on me mid-poll, but it was basically a three way between a win either way or a draw. As I said, I can see a draw... I can even see how you could try and eek out a small lead for Byrd... but a clear win like 116-112 and 117-111?

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    • theironone
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      #3
      I concur

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      • tri4ben2
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        It was not that great of a fight, but Byrd was landing the cleaner punches all night. The fact that Oquendo was coming forward and throwing a lot makes it seem like he was winning.

        Byrd slips a lot of punches that at first glance looks like they are landing. Watch some of the exchanges in slow motion, he doesn't get hit hard very often.

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        • IwatchBoxing
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          #5
          You guys cant score, this fight wasnt even close to a draw, Oquendo won this hands down.

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          • !! Anorak
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            Originally posted by tri4ben2
            It was not that great of a fight, but Byrd was landing the cleaner punches all night. The fact that Oquendo was coming forward and throwing a lot makes it seem like he was winning.

            Byrd slips a lot of punches that at first glance looks like they are landing. Watch some of the exchanges in slow motion, he doesn't get hit hard very often.
            Yeah, Byrd was kind of making the fight in that sense, but then logic would dictate if they were penalising Oquendo for countering then Byrd would normally lose.

            However, Byrd did seem more willing to trade and get hit more than usual...

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            • DiegoFuego
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              #7
              I watched this again only a week ago and scored it! Awesome that you should bring it up. I had Oquendo winning a close by clear decision, 8 rounds to 4. Why did Lederman give the last 3 rounds to Byrd? I gave Oquendo 2 out of the last 3 rounds! And I like Byrd much more than I like Oquendo.

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              • !! Anorak
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                Originally posted by DiegoFuego
                I watched this again only a week ago and scored it! Awesome that you should bring it up. I had Oquendo winning a close by clear decision, 8 rounds to 4. Why did Lederman give the last 3 rounds to Byrd? I gave Oquendo 2 out of the last 3 rounds! And I like Byrd much more than I like Oquendo.
                Seriously man? I thought Oquendo was like a worn-out rag doll for the last three rounds, if Byrd was a harder hitter that would have been a top knock-out opportunity. He was still landing, but Byrd was landing clean among all the holding and shoulder barging Fres was doing there.

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