The pac-man p4p #1?

[Ryannn]

Regardless of their ages Marquez was rated #2 p4p when they fought...and Shane IS rated #3 p4p...so i really don't see how Floyd wouldn't be considered #1 if he wins tomorrow

cause he didn't beat the number 1?

manny has to lose before floyd takes it.

mosley and jmm is not enough.....

no respectable analyst would rate floyd over pac if floyd wins

[Tmb04]

I always assumed p4p was based more off of a fighters skills and not his accomplishments. Perfect example is Chad Dawson, he's rank 8 p4p. But what the hell has he done beside fight old man after old man and only relinquishes his title belt? I personally think he got the rank because he's easily the most skilled LHW even tho he hasn't done much.

Pacman only recently accomplished more titles at more weights than Floyd. Yet Mayweather was an undefeated Olympic Champion since 1999. And up until he retired he was number 1 p4p.

He retired, Pacman Jumped liked 15 weight classes and fought the "Biggest" names at the weights. Well since Floyd retired, Pacman number 1 by default now regardless who he fought. Just so happens he fights oppenents Floyd already beat. But he did prove himself against Cotto..

So now Pacman beat every1 and is easily miles above anybody else on the list and solidifies his spot. But Floyd comes back, beats the p4p number 2 and arguably the last man to beat Pacman and claims the number 2 spot. Which I agree with since Pacman eaned his spot while Floyd was gone.

But I personally think they are both neck n neck for the 1st place spot. Ring Magazine jus isnt trying to be ****ed up n Take Pacman's title that he earned and he just keep winning anyway. But now that Floyd is fighting another p4p his actual weight class, I think that if he wins atleast by a good UD that he take's Pacman's spot.. And The only way Pacman can get it back is if he beats Mayweather or Pwill.

[ModernTalking]

Before Floyd retired, Floyd and Pac were head to head for P4P #1. They only gave it to Floyd because he was the more skilled fighter. I think he would have lost his P4P crown to Pac anyway even if he didn't retire. Many people including myself believe he wasn't fighting good enough oppisition. PAC pretty much did the impossible for the last 2 years.

[Pacquiao'd]

You can't just stay active, you gotta beat some quality fighters. Pac has done that. Boxing waits for no one.

when you say quality, do you mean beating hatton who floyd had already beaten? DLH, who floyd had already beaten?

cotto who had been demolished and number #1 rating snatched from him by marg?

clottey, who lost to a demolished cotto who wasnt number #1. the same clottey who loses all his big fights?

i fail to understand exactly what pac has done. he didnt fight anyone that matters.

after floyd beats shane. he will be considered P4P#1 but experts, watch.

and i LMAO at Ring ranking pac as #1 WW...what a joke

whats quality opponents are you talking about *******

[trk]

P4P ranking is based more on skill than on accomplishment. What matters often isn't who you beat but how you look beating them. If Floyd beats Mosley as decisively as Pacquiao has been beating recent opponents then he deserves the #1 spot. However if he beats Mosley in a close, competitive match then Pacquiao should retain his P4P #1 status. But even if Mayweather doesn't become #1 P4P, a win over Mosley should make him #1 in the welterweight division (since rankings within a division are based less on skill and have more of a "king of the hill" system).

[daggum]

I always assumed p4p was based more off of a fighters skills and not his accomplishments. Perfect example is Chad Dawson, he's rank 8 p4p. But what the hell has he done beside fight old man after old man and only relinquishes his title belt? I personally think he got the rank because he's easily the most skilled LHW even tho he hasn't done much.

Pacman only recently accomplished more titles at more weights than Floyd. Yet Mayweather was an undefeated Olympic Champion since 1999. And up until he retired he was number 1 p4p.

He retired, Pacman Jumped liked 15 weight classes and fought the "Biggest" names at the weights. Well since Floyd retired, Pacman number 1 by default now regardless who he fought. Just so happens he fights oppenents Floyd already beat. But he did prove himself against Cotto..

So now Pacman beat every1 and is easily miles above anybody else on the list and solidifies his spot. But Floyd comes back, beats the p4p number 2 and arguably the last man to beat Pacman and claims the number 2 spot.[/B] Which I agree with since Pacman eaned his spot while Floyd was gone.

But I personally think they are both neck n neck for the 1st place spot. Ring Magazine jus isnt trying to be ****ed up n Take Pacman's title that he earned and he just keep winning anyway. But now that Floyd is fighting another p4p his actual weight class, I think that if he wins atleast by a good UD that he take's Pacman's spot.. And The only way Pacman can get it back is if he beats Mayweather or Pwill.

alfonso gomez beat the last man to arguably beat floyd(castillo) so my vote goes to him. since you say floyd beat marquez you obviously don't factor in weight when analyzing fights and either will i when saying gomez beat castillo.

[Kobe B Bryant]

in the past 2 years , pacquiao has beaten #2 guy at 130 in juan manuel marquez.

the #1 guy at 140 in ricky hatton.

the #2 guy at 147 in miguel cotto.



he had 2 tuneups.

the #3 guy at 135 in david diaz and the #5 guy at 147 in joshua clottey.



mayweather's only fight the past 2 years was the same juan manuel marquez pacquiao had beaten at 130 and mayweather had him move up to 147.

[Kobe B Bryant]

the last time mayweather had a title was 2007.

since 2007 pacquiao has won the ring/lineal and wbc title at 130 , the wbc title at 135 , the ring/lineal title at 140 and the wbo title at 147.

[Kobe B Bryant]

since 2007 , mayweather has fought 1 fight against an unranked opponent in his division.

pacquiao has fought 6 fights since 2007. 5 of the 6 he beat were ranked in the division he beat them.

the 1 guy who wasn't ranked in the division he beat them at was delahoya who he had to move up 2 whole divisions to beat.

[Kobe B Bryant]

anyone who would rank mayweather above pacquiao right now is an idiot.

mayweather shouldn't even be #2 right now. that's a very generous ranking given to him because of his past resume and skills and not any accomplishment whatsoever recently.