Timothy Bradley has similarities that remind me of Hasegawa.

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  • Shadows
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    #11
    Originally posted by Iceta Lives
    Everybody is on his **** talking about how he'll beat everybody at 140. No doubt he deserves his position in the sport and I got him top ten P4P, but he's not beating Alexander. Believe that.
    And you're saying this comparable to Hasegawa because many thought Hasegawa was unbeatable at 118?

    The main difference to me is that Bradley has very arguably had a tougher lineup recently. So if anything, it's more believable to me that Bradley is "unbeatable" at his weight.

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    • Harold Lederman
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      #12
      Maybe He said that knowing a fight with Alexander down the road is a big fight? Since HBO now has both of their backs and of course wants them to meet in a big fight soon.

      And I think Bradley has experience over Alexander atm and if anything I feel Bradley is the tougher of the two. No doubt Alexander's skillset is good but i don't see anything special about it yet. Maybe with better opposition i'll change my mind, but atm i don't see how you could truely believe Alexander is a cut above Bradley, yet.

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      • ChampBox@PR
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        #13
        Hasegawa was kicking ass till he got cought!!!! I see him dominatng in a rematch!!!

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          #14
          Originally posted by Shadows
          And you're saying this comparable to Hasegawa because many thought Hasegawa was unbeatable at 118?

          The main difference to me is that Bradley has very arguably had a tougher lineup recently. So if anything, it's more believable to me that Bradley is "unbeatable" at his weight.
          What's so great about Bradley's opposition? It's like Cotto's resume at 140. A long line of good, but not elite fighters.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Iceta Lives
            Everybody is on his **** talking about how he'll beat everybody at 140. No doubt he deserves his position in the sport and I got him top ten P4P, but he's not beating Alexander. Believe that.
            i don't really see the comparison... you calling both bradley and hasegawa hype jobs?

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            • Shadows
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              #16
              Originally posted by Iceta Lives
              What's so great about Bradley's opposition? It's like Cotto's resume at 140. A long line of good, but not elite fighters.
              I said it was better than Hasegawa's. Not that hard to understand, Iceta.

              You admit that Bradley's opposition is a long line of good fighters. With exception of Montiel, Hasegawa's recent opposition is long line of decent fighters who aren't as good or as accomplished as Bradley's recent opponents.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Iceta Lives
                I analyze their styles and it's not just Alexander's power advantage over him. It's the whole package. Better jab, stamina is a toss up, better footwork, better chin (Urango hits harder than Holt). This is why Bradley is saying he'll fight Maidana, Khan, and then Alexander.
                But who has the better defense, reflexes, timing, etc? Bradley. Whose the better counter puncher? Bradley.. They each have their advantages, which makes it so even. Its funny because I heard these same mismatch speeches before Bradley-Holt, and when he went out there and gave him a boxing lesson everyone was so quick to dismiss Holt.

                Holt may not be as strong as Urango, but he is faster, longer and is a counter puncher. His punches are more accurate and you don't always see them coming, which makes them more dangerous than Urango's. Bradley was dropped in the first round because he fell right into Holt's s**t talking trap prior to the opening bell, and attacked him. The second knockdown was a great counter by Holt that Bradley didn't see. It didn't hurt him at all. Holt just punched him and moved out of the way quickly so Bradley could fall. That's what makes Holt a good fighter. He was severely weight drained in his last fight, so I'm very curious to see how he does at 147.

                And its not fair to say Bradley is overhyped but Alexander isn't. The dude had one fricken fight and everyone jumps on his sack. He failed to stop DeMarcus Corley and fought Witter just as efficiently as Bradley (only Witter was stopped because of hand trauma). And didn't he lose a lot of rounds against some random dude who took the fight on two weeks notice?

                Alexander is good, but saying Bradley and Khan have no chance against him after one fight is just ridiculous.

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                  #18
                  Bradley is a great boxer, no doubt the best guy at 140lbs atm

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                  • Iceta Lives
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter
                    i don't really see the comparison... you calling both bradley and hasegawa hype jobs?
                    No, they are good fighters. Being overrated by some posters and being a hype job are two different things to me. I think both fighters would be capable of bouncing back from a loss as I think Hozumi will.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by BoxerDood
                      But who has the better defense, reflexes, timing, etc? Bradley. Whose the better counter puncher? Bradley.. They each have their advantages, which makes it so even. Its funny because I heard these same mismatch speeches before Bradley-Holt, and when he went out there and gave him a boxing lesson everyone was so quick to dismiss Holt.

                      Holt may not be as strong as Urango, but he is faster, longer and is a counter puncher. His punches are more accurate and you don't always see them coming, which makes them more dangerous than Urango's. Bradley was dropped in the first round because he fell right into Holt's s**t talking trap prior to the opening bell, and attacked him. The second knockdown was a great counter by Holt that Bradley didn't see. It didn't hurt him at all. Holt just punched him and moved out of the way quickly so Bradley could fall. That's what makes Holt a good fighter. He was severely weight drained in his last fight, so I'm very curious to see how he does at 147.

                      And its not fair to say Bradley is overhyped but Alexander isn't. The dude had one fricken fight and everyone jumps on his sack. He failed to stop DeMarcus Corley and fought Witter just as efficiently as Bradley (only Witter was stopped because of hand trauma). And didn't he lose a lot of rounds against some random dude who took the fight on two weeks notice?

                      Alexander is good, but saying Bradley and Khan have no chance against him after one fight is just ridiculous.
                      truth. people are all over alexander as much as they are bradley. just because of a highlight reel ko

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