Read this article from Dan Rafael..... Hes becoming worse and worse guys.....

**BoxingFanFirst** · 04-30-2010, 01:29 PM

He wasn't to bad on ESPN first take this morning. They did a pretty long thing about the fight, and he wasnt hating on Mayweather at all.

I still think he's a fat ****** though.

**jrosales13** · 04-30-2010, 01:31 PM

I don't even waste my time reading his stuff anymore.

**Shattered Jaw** · 04-30-2010, 01:34 PM

I heard he is overweight and jealous of Floyd.

**Pullcounter** · 04-30-2010, 01:34 PM

But Mayweather never even pretended to be interested in any of them. Instead, this is the fighters he has faced at welterweight:

• Faded former junior welterweight titlist Sharmba Mitchell in a monumental mismatch.

• Former undisputed champion Zab Judah, who was coming off a loss to journeyman Carlos Baldomir.

• Baldomir, the utterly outclassed but legitimate champion at the time, whom Mayweather understandably faced so he could claim the lineal title.

• Ricky Hatton, the junior welterweight champion who was coming up in weight and had struggled in a previous trip into the division.

• Juan Manuel Marquez, the lightweight champion who jumped up two weight classes to fight Mayweather in the latter's September comeback bout. For that fight, Mayweather, who already had every conceivable advantage, still came in over the contract weight. (Mayweather also fought a fading Oscar De La Hoya in a massive money junior middleweight title bout in 2007, winning a more-difficult-than-expected split decision.)

"He's fought lightweights and junior welters who move up to the welterweight division," Mosley said. "The guys I fight jump into the ring [at] 172 [pounds]. The guys he fights jump into the ring 145."

Said Roger Mayweather, "Floyd knows how to win. Obviously, he doesn't know how to lose."

Roger, he don't know how to lose at WW because he never fought anyone that had a chance to beat him at WW

**daheadache** · 04-30-2010, 01:56 PM

Since when is stating fact considered hating? D.R. def has hated before, but this article is full of legit facts.

**David_TheMan** · 04-30-2010, 02:26 PM

Wow Raefael is just butt hurt than Mayweather told him to **** off a while back.

**Top Cat** · 04-30-2010, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by Ishy Aytan

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...dan&id=5146915

At least be a little unbiased Dan..... Crazy

What did Rafael write that was so biased? Give us some examples.

I would think that most objective fans would agree with a lot of what he wrote.

**DARKSEID** · 04-30-2010, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by Top Cat

What did Rafael write that was so biased? Give us some examples.

finding a piece of media that WASN'T biased would be the much harder task.

**TintaBoricua** · 04-30-2010, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by daheadache

Since when is stating fact considered hating? D.R. def has hated before, but this article is full of legit facts.

Actually, there's a little leading in the way he relates it.

� Faded former junior welterweight titlist Sharmba Mitchell in a monumental mismatch.

I'll give you that. I wasn't following boxing at the time, but Mitchell wasn't the hottest thing.[/QUOTE]

� Former undisputed champion Zab Judah, who was coming off a loss to journeyman Carlos Baldomir.

I'm on the fence on this one. Zab Judah was coming off a loss to Baldomir, but people still gave Zab a shot at beating Floyd. I'm tempted to look up what Rafael had to say about the fight when it was coming up.

� Baldomir, the utterly outclassed but legitimate champion at the time, whom Mayweather understandably faced so he could claim the lineal title.

Baldomir WAS utterly outclassed, but is that Floyd's fault? That's like saying that Clottey was outclassed by Pacquiao and that you have to discredit Pacquiao. As I've said before, if Floyd had NOT fought Baldomir, haters would all be talking about how he ducked Baldomir. Now that he was outclassed, he remains a bum in haters' eyes.

� Ricky Hatton, the junior welterweight champion who was coming up in weight and had struggled in a previous trip into the division.

Hatton looked bad at 147, but it was only a single fight, and that was against Collazo. Based on that single fight, could you tell that it was going to be a huge mismatch from the start? Weight ain't got nothing to do with it. Hatton's style was flawed, that's why he lost to Mayweather. Hatton didn't have to sacrifice anything, just a little quickness if anything. Considering how much he baloons up in weight, he had to cut less weight, if anything.

� Juan Manuel Marquez, the lightweight champion who jumped up two weight classes to fight Mayweather in the latter's September comeback bout. For that fight, Mayweather, who already had every conceivable advantage, still came in over the contract weight. (Mayweather also fought a fading Oscar De La Hoya in a massive money junior middleweight title bout in 2007, winning a more-difficult-than-expected split decision.)

Marquez...I'll give you that. I'd have to be very biased to defend Floyd over his decision to pick Marquez as an opponent (skill-wise). From a business standpoint, however, it made sense considering Marquez was a past opponent of Pacquiao and after the fight people would be making comparisons of how Marquez did against both guys. Now that he was completely outclassed and shut out, Marquez is out of the picture. But the whole affair was dirty. Marquez had only one fight at 135 and was now being forced to move up almost two weight classes (which Pacquiao had done against Oscar). Only difference was...Pacquiao was the underdog...Mayweather in this case was the favorite (and the bully). That whole thing when he didn't make weight was dirty.

As for Oscar, that wasn't a bad Oscar. Statistically, the fight was in Floyd's favor, and I don't see how Oscar was suddenly faded...why? Was it because he was beaten? I bet Dan was saying marvels about Oscar before he made the decision to fight Mayweather, though.

Said Roger Mayweather, "Floyd knows how to win. Obviously, he doesn't know how to lose."

I've said it before, Mayweather is a villain in everybody's mind. He's undefeated and he talks a lot of trash. That irks people. From a business standpoint, he'll continue to generate massive pay-per-view numbers as long as he's undefeated, because people will to continue to pay to watch and see if he'll lose. Once he's beaten, he might not be finished as a fighter, but he will not make as much money as he normally does. If he's known for anything, it's that he loves to make money, and he's making careful matches to make that money. People are rattled over anything, don't get worked up. Blinded by their hate, they find flaws in anything, and as a result discredit him over any little thing. If Mayweather beats an opponent soundly, they'll always say something: blown-up, too slow, bum, too old, too young, doesn't adapt, weak-minded, etc.

People have seldom, if ever, seen Mayweather vulnerable. So it's hard for most people to consider that he's faced elite opposition.

When all is said and done, the only way that Mayweather gets the universal approval he should have is if he is forced to show heart and pulls out a victory through an apparent struggle and overcoming. Another shut-out win against Mosley and he'll still be the same, albeit with a little more respect. If he is found to have difficulties and under those difficulties manages to somehow overcome the worst of the worst and win, then...he'll win respect. But even then, "Did you see that bum Floyd getting his ass handed to him before he pulled out the W?"

There's always something to talk about with Floyd, and I personally don't see why anybody would honestly want him out of the boxing picture.

Read this article from Dan Rafael..... Hes becoming worse and worse guys.....