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  • project xxx1
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    #11
    dont really matter because nobody gave mosley a chance against margo and we all know what happened there

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    • M.I Truth ?
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      #12
      Originally posted by Walt Liquor
      he wants only the top 15 guys and only he knows who his top 15 guys are, so the thread is a complete waste of time for everyone involved
      Who is that in the avi?

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        #13
        I haven't seen any credible boxingpeople pickng Mosley either. I do however guess that some GBP people pick shane to boost interest in a fight that shouldn't be too interesting.

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        • DiegoFuego
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          #14
          Originally posted by Walt Liquor
          coyote duran is picking mosley too

          please list your top 15 most important opinions in the sport.

          also, why didn't you say that you would only consider the top 15 opinions in the sport?
          I'm considering all, but I don't recall Doug Fischer ever adding anything insightful in the analysis of a fight that wasn't universally accepted.

          1. Al Bernstein - breaks down fights better than anyone, has been slipping in recent years but very good body of work
          2. Roy Jones Jr. - not a writer, but the best in-fight analyst maybe of all time. watch some of the work he did for HBO in 2004 and 2005
          3. Steve Farhood - no description necessary, guys is a genius
          4. Graham Houston - who doesn't go to him before a big fight?
          5. Compubox - Not sure who their writer is but always worth a look to see how they see it going
          6. Jake Emen - think he's the guy who does the picks at Pro Boxing. feel like he's been on a tear over the last year and a half, but maybe it's an assortment of writers
          7. Manny Steward - yeah, he always says, "This is how I saw this fight playing out" regardless of what happens, but when he's not doing the commentary for the fight, he's allowed to make a pick and usually gets it right
          8. Dwyre - It's obvious the guy hasn't followed boxing his whole life or anything, but he understands handicapping and he sees things that sadly enough 90% of this forum doesn't seem able to (I know we have a lot of young people and UFC fans but come on)
          9. Tim Smith
          10. Lance Pugmire
          11. Kieran Mulvaney - often makes a pick and goes with his heart more than he should but overall good
          12. Bert Sugar - has been losing his mind in recent years but still trust his fight breakdowns more often than not
          13. SC at Bad Left Hook
          14. Freddie Roach - Love him or hate him, he has a knack for seeing how fights play out
          15. Kevin Iole - he's not horrible but probably the worst of this bunch

          It's hard to remember what each guy said about every fight in recent years, but those are the ones I put the most stock in off the top of my head.

          Still, I'll listen to Doug over Teddy Atlas 9 times out of 10

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          • RimmyDelicious
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            #15
            Basically, TS is saying that all the expert's opinion is that Floyd will win, and they can only be experts if they are picking Floyd.

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            • robboxing
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              #16
              Mosley has a slim chance. Unless Floyd has a glass chin (which he doesnt) and gets caught clean (which he doesnt), there is not a huge chance Mosley will win the decision. If you analyze styles, Floyds will win almost any fight.

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              • DiegoFuego
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                #17
                Originally posted by RimmyDelicious
                Basically, TS is saying that all the expert's opinion is that Floyd will win, and they can only be experts if they are picking Floyd.
                not at all, dude. Doug Fischer is a boxing expert given the amount of hours he puts into writing and commentating, but I don't consider him one of the best. If Graham Houston picks Mosley, he picks Mosley. I'm not even saying everybody on that list picked Mayweather because I really haven't checked them all out yet. I'm just saying everything published I've come across is in favor of Mayweather. I don't give a **** if you pick Mosley or Mayweather. I just want to know why.

                Bert Sugar picked Marquez for crying out loud! He's still an expert, just made one really ****** pick.

                This fight, though seems MUCH closer to me than Mayweather-Marquez or Mayweather-Hatton or even Mayweather-De La Hoya. I just want to know why NOBODY is picking Mosley. That's all this is. No hidden agenda here.

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                • Chuckguy
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DiegoFuego
                  I'm considering all, but I don't recall Doug Fischer ever adding anything insightful in the analysis of a fight that wasn't universally accepted.

                  1. Al Bernstein - breaks down fights better than anyone, has been slipping in recent years but very good body of work
                  2. Roy Jones Jr. - not a writer, but the best in-fight analyst maybe of all time. watch some of the work he did for HBO in 2004 and 2005
                  3. Steve Farhood - no description necessary, guys is a genius
                  4. Graham Houston - who doesn't go to him before a big fight?
                  5. Compubox - Not sure who their writer is but always worth a look to see how they see it going
                  6. Jake Emen - think he's the guy who does the picks at Pro Boxing. feel like he's been on a tear over the last year and a half, but maybe it's an assortment of writers
                  7. Manny Steward - yeah, he always says, "This is how I saw this fight playing out" regardless of what happens, but when he's not doing the commentary for the fight, he's allowed to make a pick and usually gets it right
                  8. Dwyre - It's obvious the guy hasn't followed boxing his whole life or anything, but he understands handicapping and he sees things that sadly enough 90% of this forum doesn't seem able to (I know we have a lot of young people and UFC fans but come on)
                  9. Tim Smith
                  10. Lance Pugmire
                  11. Kieran Mulvaney - often makes a pick and goes with his heart more than he should but overall good
                  12. Bert Sugar - has been losing his mind in recent years but still trust his fight breakdowns more often than not
                  13. SC at Bad Left Hook
                  14. Freddie Roach - Love him or hate him, he has a knack for seeing how fights play out
                  15. Kevin Iole - he's not horrible but probably the worst of this bunch

                  It's hard to remember what each guy said about every fight in recent years, but those are the ones I put the most stock in off the top of my head.

                  Still, I'll listen to Doug over Teddy Atlas 9 times out of 10
                  Hey how did dwyer break down the fight?
                  that dude is point on for the most part

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                  • DIB42
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                    #19
                    I don't think you can have Iole and not have Fischer, I think they're on par with each other. Thats another topic all together though...

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                    • DiegoFuego
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DIB420
                      I don't think you can have Iole and not have Fischer, I think they're on par with each other. Thats another topic all together though...
                      Ehh, I think Iole is better, but I can't say you're totally wrong about that

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