Who has the better boxing skills? Calzaghe or Headbuttkins?

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  • SmoothMon
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    #21
    Originally posted by one-Punch
    What's your point. Calzaghe still won. Calzaghe clearly beat Hopkins in the end of that fight.
    Hopkins
    Bernard Hopkins has one of the best defenses in the sport. I hate to watch his fights, and im not a fan but maybe thats why. He's a slippery sumna ***** and one of the hardest dudes to get off on. I havent seen hopkins hurt, or even hit cleanly in a while. I seen him loses a boxing match due to the standards of judges, but he never accumulates damage. One of the smartest and best conditioned as well. Respect, Hopkins.. Joe is good tho.

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    • Schmerzen
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      #22


      i heard this guy learned a lot from hopkins.

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      • poeticlsykuac
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        #23
        Originally posted by Precision
        I vote Hopkins.

        Regardless of his dirty tactics (which is something he uses excessively now because of his degraded physical attributes but not so much in his prime), He showed great overall boxing ability.

        He could fight coming forward and on the backfoot, off the ropes or on the inside. He was a great body puncher, his jab was very good when he used it as was his left hook and his right hand was a deadly accurate shot especially when he lead with it. His footwork has always been great plus his defense and he also had great stamina in his prime days.

        Calzaghe could box as well as come forward, but he tended to simply overwhelm his opponents with pure workrate and speed.
        I disagree his tactics were far dirtier when he was young. I remember watching him in an interview and he was sitting there saying I am a champion and I will do anything I have to to win. Headbutt, clinch, low blow, etc. This is a man's sport, you do what you have to to win. It was something along that line. He is a far better boxer now then when he was young. He was a boxer puncher when he was young, but had more of a aggressive brawler style, hence the Executioner. If not he would have been called the Executer. His boxing skills weren't refined till a few fights before Tito. Where he had his finest performance.

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        • SoldierWarrior
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          #24
          Originally posted by T3dBundy


          i heard this guy learned a lot from hopkins.
          HAHAHAHAHA, he faked hurt all the time. I should post the little slap Calzaghe gave him that hit part of his cup then he claimed it was a hard punch! Bhop also did the same thing against Roy!

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          • Pugilistic™
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            #25
            Originally posted by SoldierWarrior
            One fighter has to be a bit more skillful then the other right? Or do you think its possible for two fighters to be about even in skills? I really don't see the skills in dirty tactics like clinching and headbutting your opponents.

            You people blame Hopkins age, yet Hopkins didn't fight dirty against Pavlik!
            Hopkins did, but no way near as much as he did against Calzaghe.

            Hopkins didn't have to fight dirty against Pavlik because he was too slow to force Hopkins to fight at a faster pace.

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            • Don Crusto.
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              #26
              Both are great fighters,skillwise its hard to pick. Both very different.

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              • Pugilistic™
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                #27
                Originally posted by poeticlsykuac
                I disagree his tactics were far dirtier when he was young. I remember watching him in an interview and he was sitting there saying I am a champion and I will do anything I have to to win. Headbutt, clinch, low blow, etc. This is a man's sport, you do what you have to to win. It was something along that line. He is a far better boxer now then when he was young. He was a boxer puncher when he was young, but had more of a aggressive brawler style, hence the Executioner. If not he would have been called the Executer. His boxing skills weren't refined till a few fights before Tito. Where he had his finest performance.
                I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the bolded because imo, Hopkins is far dirtier now than back then.

                I also disagree about Hopkins skills not being at their best until around the Tito fight. I personally think Hopkins hit his prime around 97-98.

                His prime ended after the Joppy fight in 03 imo.

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                • Amazinger
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by SoldierWarrior
                  This question has nothing to do with legacy and who will be remembered for being greater. Because I'm sure lots will vote for Headbuttkins then. This is asking you who you think has the better boxing skills. Not who has the better dirty tactics!


                  Hopkins has better skills than Calzaghe IMHO.

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                  • SoldierWarrior
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                    #29
                    Bhop doesn't even know what he says half the time, remember when he said that Miranda would be the fighter to take his throne and **** like that? Then before the Calzaghe fight he kept calling Calzaghe a con man. Yeah, a con man beats Kessler, Lacy(Even American boxers hyped him up), Eubank, Mitchell, Bika, Reid, and Sheika.

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                    • Wan Long Pong
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                      #30
                      This will obviously go to Bore Hard on a Fat Yank dominated site.

                      I need to think on this... Hopkins has taught himself some nice skills. And he's a thinking fighter - he definitely uses his head.

                      I don't think anyone would deny that Calzaghe is the more naturally gifted athelete.

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