I changed my mind...Floyd is gonna spark Shane up

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  • Bhopreign
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    #41
    Originally posted by El 7 Mares V.2
    So by your logic then that means that the Nevada, California, NY commisioning are all a bunch of inept fools as well as all of the trainers from Tony's past opponents including Emmanuel Steward, George Peterson, etc... that none of them were ever able to spot the so called "plaster" under Tony's wraps? I guess Tony and Capetillo had some miracously streak of good luck all of these years then to never have been caught before right? breaking news to you...your logic is flawed.
    Call them what you want, but many times a camp dont even send another person to watch his opponent, Cotto's camp admitted they dropped the ball. It wasnt Naazim's first time catching su****ious wraps before, stay in your cocoon of a mind, Im done with the issue.

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    • El 7 Mares V.2
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      #42
      Originally posted by Bhopreign
      Call them what you want, but many times a camp dont even send another person to watch his opponent, Cotto's camp admitted they dropped the ball. It wasnt Naazim's first time catching su****ious wraps before, stay in your cocoon of a mind, Im done with the issue.
      Nice dodge, now gimme some more head movement, lol. You are a damn fool if you think that in a career span of 15+ years and over 40 fights nobody EVER noticed those special wraps before.

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      • Ravishing
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        #43
        Originally posted by El 7 Mares V.2
        After rewatching Mosley-Margarito last night to face my deamons (I had only watched that fight once) don't see anything Shane could do that would warrant him a win against May. Shane is easy to hit, even the few punches the mentally and physically broken Margarito was able to throw landed on him, May is gonna land at will and I actually think he's gonna let his hands go this time... im sorry to say it but Floyd is gonna spark his ass up. **** it I'll even go as far as to say he's gonna be the first man to KAYO Choogar.
        I think Nazzim is smart enough to implement a different game plan for Floyd as opposed to what they had for Margarito who literally sat there to be hit.

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        • Cuauhtémoc1520
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          #44
          Originally posted by Ravishing
          I think Nazzim is smart enough to implement a different game plan for Floyd as opposed to what they had for Margarito who literally sat there to be hit.
          I have no problem believing Nazeem is smart enough to implore the right game plan. The question is can Mosley execute it?

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          • El 7 Mares V.2
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            #45
            Originally posted by Ravishing
            I think Nazzim is smart enough to implement a different game plan for Floyd as opposed to what they had for Margarito who literally sat there to be hit.
            Don't get me wrong, Shane will come out to fight and I'm sure he will have some moments and Nazzeem will have a solid gameplan, but I just can't see him pulling an upset anymore.

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            • Walt Liquor
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              #46
              Originally posted by Syf
              Just watch his fight against Tsyu

              Hatton was NOT glass chinned before Floyd... so
              Nothing to do wih fighting at too high a weight I'm sure.

              Look, no one thinks Shane isn't going to get hit. You got the same thing ou of the Margarito fight that every person has been saying on thus fight after the fact. Margs touched Shane, Shane has no legs same old same old. Did Shane ever get hurt? Was he or was he not able to bring serious heat until he had margs figured out the he loaded up on his punches and blasted him out?

              Shane used excellent footwork to clear out after his inside work and lightning right hands in the margs fight. Both will serve him well in sat's fight.

              I know this is foreign to y'all but that's not the only way Shane can fight. Hex can bring smarter pressure, he can stay out of range when he wants too.

              Another thing that makes me wonder is why you never look at jmm-Floyd. Floyd backed off and almost went into full retreat mode when jmm cracked him wit one decent right. What do you thinks gonna happen when Shane drop a hard left hook or straight right after touching up floyd's body???? Shane can cut the ring off and walk through floyds punches unlike tiny ass jmm.
              Floyd hasn't taken a hard fight in ages and you'll see what happens now that he did.

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              • Hallaqsillaq
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                #47
                Originally posted by Bhopreign
                They found a plaster-like substance that was hardening. Anything other than tape and gauze around your hands is cheating. The fact that they found "something" should make anyone who was a fan, not a fan. He was trying to have an edge, an edge that in my mind is considered attempted murder, for the simple fact that boxing is brutal enough than for a man to load his gloves. His trainer also said he always wrapped Marg's hands like that, which means he HAD been cheating for a long time.
                The problems is they said they found elements of a plaster-like substance, not plaster. It's a game of semantics, and he served his time for trying to cheat. Is it possible he did some extra damage to prior opponents, of course, but they haven't disclosed much other than they found something that was out of place. It was cheating, so is using xylocaine in every other venue other than Nevada.

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                • Hallaqsillaq
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                  Another thing that makes me wonder is why you never look at jmm-Floyd. Floyd backed off and almost went into full retreat mode when jmm cracked him wit one decent right. What do you thinks gonna happen when Shane drop a hard left hook or straight right after touching up floyd's body???? Shane can cut the ring off and walk through floyds punches unlike tiny ass jmm.
                  Floyd hasn't taken a hard fight in ages and you'll see what happens now that he did.
                  Correct. He's hiding behind the fact people interpreted the 12 round fight with tiny Marquez as "getting rounds in". In reality, Marquez has some pop and Floyd preferred to play it safe as usual and not risk getting tagged again by Marquez. He hid it well too, he's no amateur.

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                  • El 7 Mares V.2
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Hallaqsillaq
                    Correct. He's hiding behind the fact people interpreted the 12 round fight with tiny Marquez as "getting rounds in". In reality, Marquez has some pop and Floyd preferred to play it safe as usual and not risk getting tagged again by Marquez. He hid it well too, he's no amateur.
                    That I have to disagree with you pai', JMM has pop, no doubt about it, however at that weight he looked sluggish and soft, Floyd was outweighting him at the very least 15 lbs. I don't that lone shot Marquez landed on Money had him worried at all, he dictated the fight from the start and chose to fight that way, he doesn't give a damn about making a statement, he wanted to get rounds and outclass and dominate a smaller opponent, if he would of wanted to end JMM earlier he could of done so at any moment, it was that one sided.

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                    • Hallaqsillaq
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by El 7 Mares V.2
                      That I have to disagree with you pai', JMM has pop, no doubt about it, however at that weight he looked sluggish and soft, Floyd was outweighting him at the very least 15 lbs. I don't that lone shot Marquez landed on Money had him worried at all, he dictated the fight from the start and chose to fight that way, he doesn't give a damn about making a statement, he wanted to get rounds and outclass and dominate a smaller opponent, if he would of wanted to end JMM earlier he could of done so at any moment, it was that one sided.
                      It was very one sided. Sad to see one of my favorites beat like that, like watching Tito vs. Bhop again. I'm just not sure anyone would prefer to play around in the ring and not give the fans something that has never been done, spark Marquez out. With Mayweather, you never know though.

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