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  • nl543
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    #11
    The hardest part for wlad is actually getting haye into the damn ring. If he can, wlad will dominate then stop haye without too much trouble imo.

    Haye doesn't have the pressure style, stamina, durablity and punch output to trouble Klitschko. You need to come in and apply consistent pressure and workrate to tire wladimir and create opportunities. Haye, especially at hw, can't mount that kind of sustained attack.

    Haye gives ground too easily and will allow wlad to dictate the tempo of the fight. Trying to win by countering wladimir these days is nearly mission impossible.
    Last edited by nl543; 04-28-2010, 04:49 PM.

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    • SoldierWarrior
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      #12
      Originally posted by nl543
      The hardest part for wlad is actually getting haye into the damn ring. If he can, wlad will dominate then stop haye without too much trouble imo.

      Haye doesn't have the pressure style, stamina, durablity and punch output to trouble Klitschko. You need to come in and apply consistent pressure and workrate to tire wladimir and create opportunities. Haye, especially at hw, can't mount that kind of sustained attack.

      Haye gives ground too easily and will allow wlad to dictate the tempo of the fight. Trying to win by countering wladimir these days is nearly mission impossible.
      Mike Tyson who Haye fights nothing alike would give Wlad hell! Mike Tyson also had a good chin, which Haye does not have! Haye has about an avrg chin, and avrg chins just are not good enough at this weight-class in my opinion. I think Haye's chin is avrg and I also think his stamina is questionable too.

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      • Rosseboi
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        #13
        I'm concerned if the fight's in the UK and pomoted by Saurland and that Wlad'll be jobbed but I've been bitching about Haye ducking Wlad for so long now that I cannot complain that would be hypocritical -I just want to see the fight!

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          #14
          tick tick tick.....Haye's time is ALMOST up.....soon he will be a forgotten man.....thats what usually happens AFTER Wlad put hands on you!!
          Last edited by Mr. Philadel; 04-28-2010, 06:31 PM.

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          • Pirao
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            #15
            Originally posted by Rosseboi
            I'm concerned if the fight's in the UK and pomoted by Saurland and that Wlad'll be jobbed but I've been bitching about Haye ducking Wlad for so long now that I cannot complain that would be hypocritical -I just want to see the fight!
            Haye would never survive 12 rounds so don't worry about a robbery. The fight will probably happen in Germany though since Wlad is the champion.

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            • ReadyToRumble
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              #16
              Let's just hope that the fight finally goes through.

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              • nl543
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                #17
                I agree SoldierWarrior. imo, Wlad is an excellent hw but Tyson has a very favorable style match up with Wladimir. I think Wladimir could give Tyson massive problems especially if he survives the early rounds but I see Tyson winning mainly beacuse Wlad lacks a realiable uppercut to make tyson pay for coming in. If you look at the Wlad-Peter fight, that's the blueprint you need. Peter was willing and able to take massive bombs from wladimir and get in position to get off his power shots. I think one needs a very aggressive approach to give yourseld a realistic chance against a 2010 wlad. I don't see how boxing or looking to counter him can result in sustained success.

                Unless you're a Lennox Lewis type fighter who had skills, power and length that could do damage to Wlad from the outside. But there's nobody around like that today.
                Last edited by nl543; 04-28-2010, 05:11 PM.

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                • SoldierWarrior
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by nl543
                  I agree SoldierWarrior. imo, Wlad is an excellent hw but Tyson has a very favorable style match up with Wladimir. I think Wladimir could give Tyson massive problems especially if he survives the early rounds but I see Tyson winning mainly beacuse Wlad lacks a realiable uppercut to make tyson pay for coming in. If you look at the Wlad-Peter fight, that's the blueprint you need. Peter was willing and able to take massive bombs from wladimir and get in position to get off his power shots. I think one needs a very aggressive approach to give yourseld a realistic chance against a 2010 wlad. I don't see how boxing or looking to counter him can result in sustained success.

                  Unless you're a Lennox Lewis type fighter who had skills, power and length that could do damage to Wlad from the outside.
                  Yeah, but Haye can't really do anything us other then that because he will get knocked the **** out. Its not that Hayes chin is glass like some people says, its just that Heavyweights punch that hard. Anyones chin can look like crap if you fight against a good puncher. And as Wlad shown in his fight against Chambers and his other fights. He doesn't just punch hard with his right, he can knock people out with his left. I believe he only used his left against Ray Austin to embarrass Austin too!

                  Been awhile since I seen Wlad/Ray Austin but I'm pretty sure Austin got whooped badly! And I think other then Wlad just being the better fighter, I think Austin talked alot of **** before they stepped in the ring too!
                  Last edited by SoldierWarrior; 04-28-2010, 05:12 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Pirao
                    Haye would never survive 12 rounds so don't worry about a robbery. The fight will probably happen in Germany though since Wlad is the champion.
                    Yeah Wlad has only gone the full 12 a few times so what would make anyone think Haye with his glass chin and **** defense would be able to do what only a hand full have done.

                    I will believe this fight is happening only when Haye is walking to the ring but it should be an easy win for Wlad I think.

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                    • Pirao
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                      Yeah Wlad has only gone the full 12 a few times so what would make anyone think Haye with his glass chin and **** defense would be able to do what only a hand full have done.

                      I will believe this fight is happening only when Haye is walking to the ring but it should be an easy win for Wlad I think.
                      Same here man, I'll believe it when both men are in the ring fighting, even if they sign the contracts it's not a guarantee of anything since Haye has already pulled out of a fight before.

                      I hope Haye doesn't waste Wlad's time again.

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