Ben Roethilisberger and Edwin Valero

[ИATAS]

do you have a source on that?

No, I am the source because I've heard **** about ben since he came into the NFL from people who lived there and I would always hear stories about ben having sex with some random college chick at a club or or on the stairway in front of people, etc., **** like that.

I don't care enough to google search for articles or browse forums and **** but if you want to spend the time on it you'll find stuff like what I mentioned from years ago.

I understand your point though, and I agree with it 100% I just don't think big ben fits that criteria cuz he's always been an idiot off the field.

[cardinalslugger]

No, I am the source because I've heard **** about ben since he came into the NFL from people who lived there and I would always hear stories about ben having sex with some random college chick at a club or or on the stairway in front of people, etc., **** like that.

I don't care enough to google search for articles or browse forums and **** but if you want to spend the time on it you'll find stuff like what I mentioned from years ago.

I understand your point though, and I agree with it 100% I just don't think big ben fits that criteria cuz he's always been an idiot off the field.

no problem man i didnt mean to piss you off i was just asking. i just think its an interesting coincidence.

and its not a bull**** excuse, its science and medicine. when someone keeps complaining of headaches you may keep telling them to suck it up. But what happens if you find out they have a brain tumor? still bull****?

[bojangles1987]

A famous athlete having sex with drunk girls at a bar does not relate in any way to head injuries, it relates to being a famous athlete.

[DIB42]

I think Valero's problem, was drugs, alcohol, tough life, head trauma (maybe i'm on the fence on whether or not that had anything to do with it) and a violent profession.

Big Ben, I think is a spoiled child who doesn't understand why there are certain things he can't have.

[ИATAS]

no problem man i didnt mean to piss you off i was just asking. i just think its an interesting coincidence.

did I come off as being pissed off? haha, my bad. early in the morning still

[johnm is...]

Well, if his motorcycle wreck is keeping him from conducting himself as an adult, then maybe he shouldn't have his ass in night clubs.

Someone needs to teach the dude a lesson. He thinks he's invincible.

[cardinalslugger]

A famous athlete having sex with drunk girls at a bar does not relate in any way to head injuries, it relates to being a famous athlete.

this is a completely valid point. i agree with this totally, typically athletes are just out of control. but my reasoning for this is big ben's REPEATED allegations and just simply not learning from them. a little kid learns to not do something if they get yelled at, why cant he?

I think Valero's problem, was drugs, alcohol, tough life, head trauma (maybe i'm on the fence on whether or not that had anything to do with it) and a violent profession.

Big Ben, I think is a spoiled child who doesn't understand why there are certain things he can't have.

so then we slightly agree? haha

[DIB42]

so then we slightly agree? haha

Probably only slightly... However the comparison/coincidence is interesting and i welcome the discussion, although i don't blame the motorcycle crash for either of their problems.

[Pullcounter]

roethilisberger didn't beat, drug, and murder his wife.

don't compare big ben to valero douche bags.

[DIB42]

roethilisberger didn't beat, drug, and murder his wife.

don't compare big ben to valero douche bags.

You're right, big ben just sexually assaults women.... our bad