[New] Mosley Interview "I would have outboxed Trinidad"
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Ruined because he was destined for ruins. The guy had 14 fights and had no business fighting a fighter like trinidad at that point in his career. He also had a degenerative eye problem.
My point is, Reid because of his speed gave Trinidad obvious difficulties. In fighting Mosley, Trinidad would have been presented with a fighter that not only possessed speed but many other attributes that reid did not posses.
So to assume that Mosley would not give Trinidad a tougher fight is silly.Comment
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I agree it is a tough one to call because of Trinidad's power but I also agree Mosley was a different fighter back then. People tend to accuse Mosley of brawling too much but early in his career he boxed beautifully and I think would have gotten the best of Trinidad. Even though I think Trinidad would have had a much better chance of KO'g out Mosley than he ever did DLH.I think Shane is underestimating Tito's boxing ability. OK so Oscar and Hopkins did it. Both are better "boxers" than you. Oscar has a better jab and has tighter defense when he wants to. Shane would have traded with Tito and gotten caught with plenty of clean punches. Hard to see who wins this fight. It's a tough one.Comment
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No one is saying that Mosley would've been less difficult than Reid. You are the person who raised Reid as an example. And while you mention speed, you fail to mention that what really troubled Tito - to go along with the mph on the shots - was Reid's size and strength. But once he began landing, it was all over.Ruined because he was destined for ruins. The guy had 14 fights and had no business fighting a fighter like trinidad at that point in his career. He also had a degenerative eye problem.
My point is, Reid because of his speed gave Trinidad obvious difficulties. In fighting Mosley, Trinidad would have been presented with a fighter that not only possessed speed but many other attributes that reid did not posses.
So to assume that Mosley would not give Trinidad a tougher fight is silly.
Mosley would be in deep **** against a fighter of Tito's build; a fighter who could keep him at the end of his shots and threw with power. Mosley has always had trouble with those kind of fighters. His strength would not be a factor here and he just wasn't a fighter who could go in and out without getting caught. Furthermore (and it seems to have been forgotten here), but a prime Tito was fairly quick handed himself. Against a fighter with as many defensive lapses as Shane, he would land plenty.
I see Shane jumping out to an early lead with Tito taking over in the middle rounds. Down the stretch could be brutal. Shane is tough and I expect him to hear the final bell but lose a UD clearly.Comment
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I think you underrate Mosley big time. In my ALL TIME list, I have Mosley far ahead of Tito as a boxer.No one is saying that Mosley would've been less difficult than Reid. You are the person who raised Reid as an example. And while you mention speed, you fail to mention that what really troubled Tito - to go along with the mph on the shots - was Reid's size and strength. But once he began landing, it was all over.
Mosley would be in deep **** against a fighter of Tito's build; a fighter who could keep him at the end of his shots and threw with power. Mosley has always had trouble with those kind of fighters. His strength would not be a factor here and he just wasn't a fighter who could go in and out without getting caught. Furthermore (and it seems to have been forgotten here), but a prime Tito was fairly quick handed himself. Against a fighter with as many defensive lapses as Shane, he would land plenty.
I see Shane jumping out to an early lead with Tito taking over in the middle rounds. Down the stretch could be brutal. Shane is tough and I expect him to hear the final bell but lose a UD clearly.
You also need to remember the fights with DLH. DLH is 2x the boxer Tito is and Mosley boxed with Oscar for 24 rounds, impressively.
Mosley may be shorter in height but his build is something that he could handle taller fighters, he's a natural 147lber who can fight at 154.
Like I said, I think Tito could KO Mosley is he catches him but Mosley was very, very fast and his boxing would give Tito problems because Tito had problems with speedy guys like that. Tito was a long rangy power puncher but I think gets way too much credit for being a good boxer.Comment
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Fair enough, but although Tito was fairly quick he wasn't as defensive or cautious as a winky wright or vernon forrest. Although forrest was effective at keeping mosley at the end of his punches, it shouldn't be forgotten that he clinched very effectively to stem the mosley tide. Trindad was generally a much more offensive fighter than forrest, and due to his aggression and mosley's speed he would've taken leather in return.No one is saying that Mosley would've been less difficult than Reid. You are the person who raised Reid as an example. And while you mention speed, you fail to mention that what really troubled Tito - to go along with the mph on the shots - was Reid's size and strength. But once he began landing, it was all over.
Mosley would be in deep **** against a fighter of Tito's build; a fighter who could keep him at the end of his shots and threw with power. Mosley has always had trouble with those kind of fighters. His strength would not be a factor here and he just wasn't a fighter who could go in and out without getting caught. Furthermore (and it seems to have been forgotten here), but a prime Tito was fairly quick handed himself. Against a fighter with as many defensive lapses as Shane, he would land plenty.
I see Shane jumping out to an early lead with Tito taking over in the middle rounds. Down the stretch could be brutal. Shane is tough and I expect him to hear the final bell but lose a UD clearly.
And notice, molsey didn't say "i'll just over power and ko trinidad." He stated that he would've out boxed him, clearly indicating that he respects trinidad's power and the destructive force of his left hook.
In contrast, before the cotto fight, mosley said that he did not intend on making that fight a boxing match, hence the reason why he was flat footed and loading up on single shots. This made him vulnerable. He wouldn't have shown trinidad this kind of disrespect (It should also be noted that if cotto didn't start to back pedal late in the fight there's a good chance he would've been ko'd. Trinidad has never shown the ability to fight off the back foot for an extended period of time.)
I also believe that mosley's defense and overall boxing skills are severely under rated.Last edited by northstar; 04-28-2010, 10:45 AM.Comment
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You said it...long, rangy...I think you underrate Mosley big time. In my ALL TIME list, I have Mosley far ahead of Tito as a boxer.
You also need to remember the fights with DLH. DLH is 2x the boxer Tito is and Mosley boxed with Oscar for 24 rounds, impressively.
Mosley may be shorter in height but his build is something that he could handle taller fighters, he's a natural 147lber who can fight at 154.
Like I said, I think Tito could KO Mosley is he catches him but Mosley was very, very fast and his boxing would give Tito problems because Tito had problems with speedy guys like that. Tito was a long rangy power puncher but I think gets way too much credit for being a good boxer.
Think Vernon
Think Winky
So much has been made of their jabs winning the fight (as if Shane's never seen a jab before)...a good jab is a problem for ANYONE!
If anything, I think people are underestimating Tito. DLH is not 2x the boxer Tito is or he would have been able to box for 12 rounds instead of 8. He couldn't because the other guy's strategy was even more effective. When he realized he could no longer box and would have to stand and trade...he ran. That was the conundrum you faced when fighting Tito. Also, saying Tito had problems with speedy guys is strange. Like who? Oscar? I just discussed that. Who else?Comment
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thats not an oppinion.. thats a fact...
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