Could Pacquiao go through Mayweather's resume undefeated?

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  • jrosales13
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    #181
    Originally posted by No Ceilings
    I dont know. Pac at 130 didnt have two hands. I cant see Hernandez losing to a fighter with the skill level Pac had at that weight. I mean this dude beat Nelson who was more skilled then Pac was I dont see.

    Then at 154 Oscar was strong, wasnt drained and could fight back it would be a different fight.
    Pac wasn't a two handed fight still his one hand was good enough to beat JMM at 130 and that version of Chicanito that Floyd fought was not the same version that fought Nelson... Chicanito was at the tail end of is career. That was Chicanito last fight...

    The Oscar fight at 154 would of been different then the fight at 147. But, Pac still would of won. The only different is that for the first 8 rounds Oscar would be competitive but would of gotten dominated when he gassed. Like he has been doing in the last decade...

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      #182
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Pac wasn't a two handed fight still his one hand was good enough to beat JMM at 130 and that version of Chicanito that Floyd fought was not the same version that fought Nelson... Chicanito was at the tail end of is career. That was Chicanito last fight...

      The Oscar fight at 154 would of been different then the fight at 147. But, Pac still would of won. The only different is that for the first 8 rounds Oscar would be competitive but would of gotten dominated when he gassed. Like he has been doing in the last decade...
      He never fought again but he fought as hard as he could. Floyd was just to young, too hungry and too good.

      With Oscar. I know you dont like him, heck I dont like him but at 154 he had speed, power and overall good boxing skills.

      I dont think gets around that jab and starts to time it like Floyd did. I also cant see Pac going 12 rounds without one Oscar left hook landing like with Floyd. Pac would be hit hard by the biggest dude hes ever fought. I dont know if he can take the punches that stopped Vargas and Mayorga. However Pac would be light years faster so that will play a role.

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        #183
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        The only people in Floyd resume that could give Pac hell and possibly beat him. Is Corrales at 130(probably would beat him) Augustus and Castillo at 135. Everybody else Pac beats...
        Pacquiao couldn't even beat Marquez

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          #184
          Originally posted by King22
          no he could not come on now jrosales13 i know you know more about boxing than that
          OK name one really good southpaw that Oscar beat in his prime decisively? I am not talking about controversial decisions like an old Whitaker.

          And, now we not even talking about a prime Oscar, we talking about an OLD Oscar who was a part time fighter and full time promoter...

          Do you not remember that was the same Oscar that was schooled and embarrassed against another southpaw in IVan Calderon? If you don't know Calderon is a 105/108 pounds fighter. And, Oscar couldn't touch him. And, the sent Calderon home...

          How good was that version of Oscar past 8 rounds?

          The only reason Oscar looked "decent" against Floyd. It is because Floyd played it safe. Floyd beat Oscar that night using his C or B game. Floyd didn't go all out. And, Oscar still only won 3 rounds, 4 if your generous...

          If Floyd really wanted to prove something. You would of saw how old Oscar really was...

          The man got marked up in his very next fight after Floyd against feather fisted Forbes FFS's...

          King you should be a better fan that this... You coming on some nuthugging/hating tip...

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          • Gentso
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            #185
            Pac jumped on Oscar at 147 because Roach saw the IV marks. At 154 where Oscar has his full strength and Pac isn't taking advantage of it Rambo style Oscar wins. Pac would not be comfortable at all going that high in weight.

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              #186
              Originally posted by No Ceilings
              He never fought again but he fought as hard as he could. Floyd was just to young, too hungry and too good.

              With Oscar. I know you dont like him, heck I dont like him but at 154 he had speed, power and overall good boxing skills.

              I dont think gets around that jab and starts to time it like Floyd did. I also cant see Pac going 12 rounds without one Oscar left hook landing like with Floyd. Pac would be hit hard by the biggest dude hes ever fought. I dont know if he can take the punches that stopped Vargas and Mayorga. However Pac would be light years faster so that will play a role.
              But, you could tell Chicanito was slippin a little from when he fought Nelson. JMM at 130 was a better overall fighter than that version of Chicanito. And, Pac speed and power would of been problems for him... But, is still a great win for Floyd don't get me wrong. Chicanito was still the man at the time...

              Oscar always had problems with southpaws from his prime all the way up to he retired. He just had problems with them. And, then you add the speed and Oscar stamina issues? Pac wins...

              I will give you Oscar of the 90's or early 2000;s would beat Pac. But, that not the late 2000's version.

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                #187
                Originally posted by King22
                Pacquiao couldn't even beat Marquez
                If I am not mistaken Pac never lost to JMM...

                What are you talking about?

                Oh and JMM at 126/130 version>2007 version of Oscar at 154.

                True Story....

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  But, you could tell Chicanito was slippin a little from when he fought Nelson. JMM at 130 was a better overall fighter than that version of Chicanito. And, Pac speed and power would of been problems for him... But, is still a great win for Floyd don't get me wrong. Chicanito was still the man at the time...

                  Oscar always had problems with southpaws from his prime all the way up to he retired. He just had problems with them. And, then you add the speed and Oscar stamina issues? Pac wins...

                  I will give you Oscar of the 90's or early 2000;s would beat Pac. But, that not the late 2000's version.
                  Well yeah the southpaw style is also not a good look for Oscar. Whats funny is I actually made a thread saying that Pac might be too fast for Oscar for the Dec 6 fight. Everyone laughed at me.

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                    #189
                    The Version of Pacquiao that beat Cotto would probably go through Mayweather's resume undefeated.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by Ray*
                      The Version of Pacquiao that beat Cotto would probably go through Mayweather's resume undefeated.
                      But, that version of Pac would be weight drained at 130.

                      The key is the weight-classes...

                      Floyd would beat Ledwaba P4P but I am not sure if he would have beaten him at 122. Floyd was big at 130 at 122 I think he would of been weight drained...

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