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Kevin Iole: "It is NOT fair to say the Floyd hasn't faced an elite WW before"
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Originally posted by 2501 View Poststill doesn't change the fact that he fought a fighter coming off of a loss.
again,
The elite WW he fought was coming off of a loss.
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Iole is an idiot.
I remember him writing before Vitali fought Gomez, that Gomez wasn't deserving of a fight with Vitali despite the fact that Gomez won 2 final eliminators for his chance at the title. Iole wrote in the same article that Vitali should be fighting Haye because he was more deserving.
Judah might have been highly thought of at the time but looking back now and seeing how he performed against top welterweights subsequently, was he ever really that good?
Does being one of the best of a bad bunch at the time make you elite?
Overall, I would say Mosley is the best welterweight he will have fought, regardless of whether Mosley is past his best or not.
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Originally posted by Kball15 View Postexactly. and our thoughts that judah wasnt elite was confirmed by that loss, AND by follow up losses to Cotto and Clottey.
Judah wasnt an elite welterweight, end of storyLast edited by Calilloyd; 04-27-2010, 02:54 PM.
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Originally posted by Rich_Loc View PostMargarito was a 3 time champ, fought every hard guy in the division and was a top 5 WW for 9 straight years.
Baldomir ain't **** compared to Margarito.
You're from Michigan, so I'll give you a pass for your blatant nuthuggery.
Carlos Baldomir would have competed with Shane Mosley, unlike Margarito. Hell, Baldomir gave Vernon Forest a better fight than Margarito gave Mosley. LOL!
We all know Vernon Forest was Shane's real daddy.
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Originally posted by Top Cat View PostIole is an idiot.
I remember him writing before Vitali fought Gomez, that Gomez wasn't deserving of a fight with Vitali despite the fact that Gomez won 2 final eliminators for his chance at the title. Iole wrote in the same article that Vitali should be fighting Haye because he was more deserving.
Judah might have been highly thought of at the time but looking back now and seeing how he performed against top welterweights subsequently, was he ever really that good?
Does being one of the best of a bad bunch at the time make you elite?
Overall, I would say Mosley is the best welterweight he will have fought, regardless of whether Mosley is past his best or not.
Zab's losses are not as "quality" as ODH but IMO at least equal to shane. If zab were a true "professional" he might only have 3 losses
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The Zab Judah that Floyd fought was a vintage version of Judah also, you guys are acting like he fought Clottey Zab~
Zab being very inconsistent through his career it is hard to judge him on average
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Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View PostThe Zab Judah that Floyd fought was a vintage version of Judah also, you guys are acting like he fought Clottey Zab~
Zab being very inconsistent through his career it is hard to judge him on average
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Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View PostThe Zab Judah that Floyd fought was a vintage version of Judah also, you guys are acting like he fought Clottey Zab~
Zab being very inconsistent through his career it is hard to judge him on average
There is nothing worse than wasted talent!
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