If PAC/146 pounder, fight don't happen, then he should just fight for the 154 strap, winner of this June matchup.better than seeing jmm/margo matchups that doesn't equate to anything.
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roach is training the guy who margorito is fighting next,so lets hope roachs guy follow a shane like fight strategy and KO this ***** into retirment,or let martinez avenge his loss and cotto maybe beat on margarito minus his handy plaster.
everyones sayin floyds faster than mosley,but how much faster,i think its who gets off first and pushes the fight more might win it.
floyd will think hes a big strong guy and has an effective jab and that wil stop shane from getting at him.
From watching oscar vs floyd and judah vs floyd early rounds i think mosley brings a lot more boxing ability,speed and power and can trouble floyd very much and i expect shane to win unless its clearly ring rust/getting old overnight and not pulling the trigger like he can do.
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Originally posted by The Impaler View PostIf Pacquiao beats Mayweather, I have no problem calling him the greatest fighter of all time.u might b a die hard floyd fan but damn dude u r overating he's resume too much!! Floyd's skill is undeniable but in the end comes down to your resume and floyd isn't nowhere near SRR or ALI or any other top of the list ATG's...
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roach says mosley only does well with guys that come to him,then he says he doesnt do well with counter punchers, im thinking hmmm..... how is pacyow going to do well against maygayther if pac is proven to not do well against counter punchers and only does well against guys that come to him? sugar hits harder has more of a punch variety reach power and chin than does manny pac where does roach get if shane cant beat gayweather pacyow will??? makes no sense. and if shane loses not likely pac wins against mayweather i dont care how much hype profit or hooplah is around that fight. i hope somebody beats gayweather the guy is garbage and he sux to watch.
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostWell if Floyd is the greatest skilled fighter of all time then a win over him plus all the accomplishment Pac has. Should have him in the G.O.A.T discussion....
Stop it already!!!
You say Pac doesn't need Floyd.... for legacy or $$$$
You say Pac will never subject himself to Mayweathers demands for additional testing.... because such demands are really Floyds way of saying he doesn't want to fight Pac (because he fears him)
You say Pac will never take a lesser purse split against Mayweather... when you know thats exactly what is going to happen! Mayweather is a ruthless and heartless negotiator. With Pac's unwillingness to make the last fight...... Floyd will now ask for a split purse in his favor (he has bigger ppv numbers than Pac against all common opponents.... and if boxing insiders are right will more than double the Pac v Clottey ppv numbers this weekend).
Tell Pac to forget about a Mayweather fight forever!!! Tell Freddie to forget about a Mayweather fight forever!!!
Floyd will never allow it unless you come crawling on your knees begging for the opportunity and are willing to accept all of Floyds demands!!! Just like Floyd did when he fought Oscar DeLaHoya. Oscar got everything... pick of gloves.... pick of ring size..... pick of venue.... pick of purse split.... everything!!!!
Pac fans you want Pac to make Floyd pay in the ring..... if you want to see your boy on top of the Greatest of All Time list.... well none of that comes without a price..... your boy is going to have to give up an awful alot at the negotiation table if he ever wants any of that.... and it's a small price to pay for boxing immortality!Last edited by tacoboxer; 04-26-2010, 10:23 PM.
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Originally posted by tacoboxer View PostI wish you Pac fans would stop with the nonsense! Why in one breath do you insist Pac doesn't need Mayweather then in the next breath you mention what a Pac victory over Floyd would mean to his legacy?
Stop it already?
You say Pac doesn't need Floyd.... for legacy or $$$$
You say Pac will never subject himself to Mayweathers demands for additional testing.... because such demands are really Floyds way of saying he doesn't want to fight Pac (because he fears him)
You say Pac will never take a lesser purse split against Mayweather... when you know thats exactly what is going to happen! Mayweather is a ruthless and heartless negotiator Mayweather. With Pac's unwillingness to make the last fight...... Floyd will now ask for a split purse in his favor (he has bigger ppv numbers than Pac against all common opponents.... and if boxing insiders are right will more than double Pac v Clottey).
Tell Pac to forget about a Mayweather fight forever!!! Tell Freddie to forget about a Mayweather fight forever!!!
Floyd will never allow it unless you come crawling on your knees begging for the opportunity and are willing to accept all of Floyds demands!!! Just like Floyd did when he fought Oscar DeLaHoya. Oscar got everything... pick of gloves.... pick of ring size..... pick of venue.... pick of purse split.... everything!!!!
Pac fans you want Pac to make Floyd pay in the ring..... if you want to see your boy on top of the Greatest of All Time list.... well none of that comes without a price..... your boy is going to have to give up alot in the negotiation table if he ever wants any of that.... and it's a small price to pay for boxing immortality!
First of all, even if Pac destroys Floyd I would not put him in the top 10-15 all time... I just wouldn't. I don't care if he dominates him every second of every round.... There are too many ATG fighters throughout history. And, if Pac beats Floyd but not in a dominate fashion. For me it would be hard to put Pac in the top 20-25...
Because, I stand by my word...
However, if you going to make a case for Floyd being the greatest skilled fighter of all time. A case that I am not making mind you. And, if Pac beats who you called the greatest skillful fighter of all time, then what does that say about Pac skills? And, then you add the accomplishments, how could that same person laugh it off and not have Pac in that G.O.A.T discussion?
I wish some of you Floyd fans would stop overrated/underrating mofo's and stop playing the damn victim.. And, notice how I said some. You on the other hand are generalizing the whole group. You should stop doing that...
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostWTF is wrong with you Floyd fans/Pac haters?
First of all, even if Pac destroys Floyd I would not put him in the top 10-15 all time... I just wouldn't. I don't care if he dominates him every second of every round.... There are too many ATG fighters throughout history. And, if Pac beats Floyd but not in a dominate fashion. For me it would be hard to put Pac in the top 20-25...
Because, I stand by my word...
However, if you going to make a case for Floyd being the greatest skilled fighter of all time. A case that I am not making mind you. And, if Pac beats who you called the greatest skillful fighter of all time, then what does that say about Pac skills? And, then you add the accomplishments, how could that same person laugh it off and not have Pac in that G.O.A.T discussion?
I wish some of you Floyd fans would stop overrated/underrating mofo's and stop playing the damn victim.. And, notice how I said some. You on the other hand are generalizing the whole group. You should stop doing that...
Well I'm not that type of person.... I responded to your post about G.O.A.T. (thinking you had originated the discussion... it was Impaler not you...) I got it wrong.Last edited by tacoboxer; 04-26-2010, 11:02 PM.
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