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  • onechance87
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    #21
    Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
    I heard he missed because Shaw wanted him to.

    As far as everything else, I think Margarito is a beast don't get me wrong but he extends himself too much, leaving himself open to much for hard counters. I like the way Perro is more controlled, he doesn't leave himself open the way Marg does.

    Marg does have a better offensive arsenal though, his uppers are deadly and he can defend the jab better but remember, he's also a lot more experienced than Angulo.

    Like I said, I just hope Shaw looks after Angulo and doesn't put him in there with someone to early.
    Exactly bro,Imo they rushed angulo into cintron.They should have
    put angulo against julio first.Tho i think the loss only made him better.

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    • Walt Liquor
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      #22
      Arreola:

      What can you say about this guy other than, if he refuses to take the sport seriously, he will never achieve his dream. When he pressured Adamek and physically pushed him around, he was winning the fight easily. What prevented him from doing this for 12 rounds was his conditioning.

      He could have knocked Adamek out if he would have pressured him but he took 3 rounds off at a time, sad....

      I love Arreola's heart and toughness but unless he stops the drinking (which he admitted he does) and stops the eating and really dedicates himself and get's into serious shape, he will never beat the elites in the sport.


      I agree with your Angulo analysis but I disagree that Chirs would have had Adamek out of there.

      Adamek was too slick and had enough pop to keep Chris off. If anything Chris' hands were what killed him.

      Adamek is a very very tough guy with a hard ass head. Arreola can fight on his toes a little better tahn he did Saturday night, he just kept thinking that Adamek would stand and trade with him. I thought he would too.

      In rds 4-5 when everyone thought Adamek was stunned, it was because of his shoes (which they had to hold up the fight to fix). it was obviousl because after being hit, adamek would only hop on one foot and not put the foot down with the busted sole so he didn't lose balance. I knew what it was immediately after they were working on his shoes. Lennox and them were calling his footwork terrible, well guess why? Cuz his shoe was all ***ed up and he didn't want to go down.

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      • EDD1
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        #23
        My take on the Arroela;
        you ever have that homie that wants to take all jobless homies with him to the BYOB parties????
        arreola is one of those dudes... he cant get rid of his homie "trainer" because its a homie thing...
        I believe his trainer is just his spotter and does nothing to push or punish this guy in training camp... his promoter should have noticed this already and should be suggesting a coaching change...
        If they have suggested it and arreola refused then you know its cause he wants to "keep it real"...
        Those Jobless homies you take to the BYOB parties are usually the ones that f-it up for you somehow by getting too drunk or fighting...

        Ive heard from familia down south that they go out the junk food places together... Cant confirm that but the nasty rolls look like the rolls on all my fat Carnitas taco eating friends...

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        • Walt Liquor
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          #24
          I had Adamek up by 2 rounds in a close competitive fight. Crowd pleaser for sure and I think people are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too quick to write Chris off.

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            #25
            Originally posted by EDD1
            My take on the Arroela;
            you ever have that homie that wants to take all jobless homies with him to the BYOB parties????
            arreola is one of those dudes... he cant get rid of his homie "trainer" because its a homie thing...
            I believe his trainer is just his spotter and does nothing to push or punish this guy in training camp... his promoter should have noticed this already and should be suggesting a coaching change...
            If they have suggested it and arreola refused then you know its cause he wants to "keep it real"...
            Those Jobless homies you take to the BYOB parties are usually the ones that f-it up for you somehow by getting too drunk or fighting...

            Ive heard from familia down south that they go out the junk food places together... Cant confirm that but the nasty rolls look like the rolls on all my fat Carnitas taco eating friends...
            his coaching is fine. but when he's in training, they need to go someplace secluded where oreo-la can't binge-eat

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            • Cuauhtémoc1520
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              #26
              Originally posted by Walt Liquor

              I agree with your Angulo analysis but I disagree that Chirs would have had Adamek out of there.

              Adamek was too slick and had enough pop to keep Chris off. If anything Chris' hands were what killed him.

              Adamek is a very very tough guy with a hard ass head. Arreola can fight on his toes a little better tahn he did Saturday night, he just kept thinking that Adamek would stand and trade with him. I thought he would too.

              In rds 4-5 when everyone thought Adamek was stunned, it was because of his shoes (which they had to hold up the fight to fix). it was obviousl because after being hit, adamek would only hop on one foot and not put the foot down with the busted sole so he didn't lose balance. I knew what it was immediately after they were working on his shoes. Lennox and them were calling his footwork terrible, well guess why? Cuz his shoe was all ***ed up and he didn't want to go down.
              Originally posted by Walt Liquor
              I had Adamek up by 2 rounds in a close competitive fight. Crowd pleaser for sure and I think people are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too quick to write Chris off.
              I'm not writing off Arreola but look at the 4th or 5th round was it? He hurt Adamek with a jab! A ***in jab man....

              If he would have pressured him all night long, sooner or later he would have landed a big shot or even a knock down.

              I respect Adamek but I think we will never know what will happen because Arreola cannot come in at 250lbs, no way no how. He's fooling himself and fooling the public into thinking he's an elite HW if he won't take his career seriously.

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              • Pirao
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                #27
                The 1st time I scored it 116-112 Adamek, but I just rewatched it and had it 115-113 Adamek. Whenever he was going forward and throwing, Arreola was winning the fight, if he had done it more he would have won. He really needs to improve his conditioning and lay off the tacos.

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                • Walt Liquor
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
                  I'm not writing off Arreola but look at the 4th or 5th round was it? He hurt Adamek with a jab! A ***in jab man....

                  If he would have pressured him all night long, sooner or later he would have landed a big shot or even a knock down.

                  I respect Adamek but I think we will never know what will happen because Arreola cannot come in at 250lbs, no way no how. He's fooling himself and fooling the public into thinking he's an elite HW if he won't take his career seriously.
                  That's what I was trying to say in my post, he looked like he hurt him but he didn't. Adamek stumbled because of his shoes that needed to be fixed at the end of the round. Look for that when you rewatch the fight.
                  Adamek said he was never hurt immediately after the fight and I believe him.


                  as far as the bold goes, I agree 1000%, i think he could be elite if he does take fitness seriously and uses more of his boxing ability.

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