Comments Thread For: Miguel Cotto's Bad Habits are Being Broken By Steward

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  • AntonTheMeh
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    #71
    i still think this union commenced a tad late; better late than never i suppose. but getting a new and weathered trainer is only half the battle.

    what about his fitness?

    every time I've seen this dude fight since the judah fight he's gassing. he looks leaner, but didn't gain anything in speed, and appears (at least to me) to not look as strong as he usually did.

    its obvious at weigh in's that the the guy is still boiling down to make weight.

    cotto's defense is trash. the guy's defense consists of covering up his face, and that's usually not a good move when they tape his gloves up the way they do.


    I've always thought that cotto needed someone like kevin rooney to help him create his defense. that peek abo defense would have done wonders for him if he was schooled on it from the begining of his career.
    Last edited by AntonTheMeh; 04-24-2010, 03:32 PM.

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    • TxHustla
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      #72
      Originally posted by HandSpeed303
      Really, please explain to me what I don't knowl.

      Some of you cats that have put me in your post, have no clue what you are talking about.

      Cotto does need to start going back to the body, but what does that have to do with anything I said about Steward? And his teachings?

      Please explain what I don't know...Mr. Know it all.
      i didnt mean directly toward about some of yall dnt know ****..but the begining was to ur quote..steward has pointed it out many times he needs to go back to the old cotto..body punching and good movement..my bad homie..lol

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      • Random1
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        #73
        I'm not a huge Cotto fan, but it's hard not to like his attitude. I hope that he'll get the stuff ironed out and can have a good end to his career with less punishment for his efforts.

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        • HandSpeed303
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          #74
          Originally posted by TxHustla
          i didnt mean directly toward about some of yall dnt know ****..but the begining was to ur quote..steward has pointed it out many times he needs to go back to the old cotto..body punching and good movement..my bad homie..lol
          I feel you.

          I was basing alot of what i was saying, on the fact that Steward has most of his succsess with Tall/long fighters. That he turns into outside fighters with good jabs, and great right hands. I have said that Cotto has that already.

          Well I said a decent jab...Anyway-

          Going back to the body will be very key for Cotto. It does seem that he has forgotten how good he was when going to the body. In his defense though, Clottey, Margo, and Pac would not let him go to the body as much as he would have liked to.

          I want folks to understand, I want Cotto to come back strong, I will just hold off to see how things go with Steward.

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          • pinkivory
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            #75
            Originally posted by BoxeoBoriqua
            Idk what is your problem with Puerto Ricans but if its that serious, you should really consider ignoring the threads that are about Boricua fighters. Its become comical how much of a hater you are. Your not just a guy from another race givin his honest opinion on a fighter from another race. Your a muda***in hater!!!!! I remember a lil while back you made a post on another thread talkin about Shane Mosley ruined Cotto. After I LMFAO, I was like is this ****head serious or what??? Cotto clearly beat the Mosley, your just 2 much of an idiot 2 accept it.
            He is a hater, always hated on Cotto and always will. You can't take his opinion seriously because hatred blinds his judgement. After he wrote " Shane ruined Cotto," he became a poster with no credibility. Maybe a Puerto Rican stoled his lunch money or his girlfriend.

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            • Thickback
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              #76
              Originally posted by HandSpeed303
              Steward always breaks down his fighters, and biulds them back up to what he wants them to be...It does not always work for him.

              The only difference I expect to see out of Cotto, are the same changes I see out of every Steward trained fighter. Stay on the outside, jab, staight right hand..

              Cotto had that already...He will just stay on the outside alot more under Stewards teaching.

              Not a bad thing, but like I said before, it doesn't always work for fighters that have been figting a certain style for a long time.
              I couldn't have said that any better. I don't like Steward as a trainer. I can't see what he can do for Cotto. No fighter he's had displayed good or even average head movement. Lennox....Klitzko....Cintron....Hearns....what they have in commom is height with long reach. Cotto doesn't have that and he's moving up a division to fight taller fighters.

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              • Beater_of_ass
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                #77
                I'm as big a Cotto fan there is, but when people say he's had bad training all his career because he is struggling now are ******, period. His uncle was doing a great job of training him, the Mosley fight is a perfect example. Before that fight he was looked at as a come forward pure pressure fighter, which he didn't do to Mosley at all, he did the patented Cotto which Steward is referring to. He fought at a mid range, had nice steady paced movement kind of lulling Mosley to sleep, hell as Mosley said in his interview after, "He was very deceptive." (Click my sig to see it.) That is what I think Steward is referring in the old Cotto. People need to watch that fight again and watch Cotto's style and how Steward immediately says that it is confusing/surprising Mosley.

                This more than anything is what Cotto got away from. After this and I guess the Jennings fight as well, when Cotto's uncle stopped training him is when the decline started as have should have been expected. The only thing Cotto really should have done different in the Marg fight is hold him after hitting hims combos as Mosley did. Even then if Marg didn't have the plaster I think Cotto still would have won, but a very close decision. However, had he held after his combinations instead of enjoying his work and moving to the next part of the ring he may have still won plaster or not because he wouldn't have gassed or at least been hit nearly as much.

                Then we have other people saying Cotto doesn't know how to fight on the inside... WTF? Thats how he became a name he got inside and pounded the body, how can you hit the body from the outside? I mean really, where do some of you people learn or watch boxing? As far as Steward training him I don't see how it can't get any worse. He has a guy who first of all isn't a yes man, secondly actually knows what he is doing and most importantly is fixing Cotto's flaws. Its safe to say Cotto really doesn't need much more offensive training as the only times he's really ever been in trouble is when he is on the defensive not offensive. For people thinking "Well no ****, when you are in trouble you're on the defensive" you are the idiots I'm talking about.

                Pavlik vs. Hopkins, Pav was in trouble because of his bad offense, same in the Martinez fight. Hatton vs. Mayweather same thing, Hatton vs. Manny same, Margarito vs Mosley same thing I can go on and on. When Cotto is doing what he did in the Mosley fight or coming forward with steady pressure he's nearly flawless except for the KD in the Paq fight and the few times he got caught with Judah, but when you come forward as much as he did you're going to get hit at times. That being said with exception to losing to the BEST FIGHTER ON THE PLANET, he's nearly perfect offensively and he is certainly flawed defensively.

                In fact, IF Cotto used the style he did to beat Mosley instead of his dumbass trainer telling him "All he has is the left and keep pressuring him." He very well may have won that fight, the first round is a perfect example, it was the vintage Cotto. Nice steady pace, explode with a big combination, slow pace, quick jab, slow pace, combo, jab out of nowhere etc. Thats Cotto's style constantly keeping the opponent guessing, once his uncle left that entire strategy flew out the window.
                Last edited by Beater_of_ass; 04-24-2010, 04:39 PM.

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                • TheSurgeonMDMPH
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by -Antonio-
                  Taylor and Cintron are more athletes than true boxers anyway. Cotto has a boxer's mind.
                  No he doesn't. He has a brawler's/bully's mind. When he cant hurt his opponent or intimidate him, he runs/boxes. All offense. When outgunned he retreats.

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                  • TheSurgeonMDMPH
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by HandSpeed303
                    Steward always breaks down his fighters, and biulds them back up to what he wants them to be...It does not always work for him.

                    The only difference I expect to see out of Cotto, are the same changes I see out of every Steward trained fighter. Stay on the outside, jab, staight right hand..

                    Cotto had that already...He will just stay on the outside alot more under Stewards teaching.

                    Not a bad thing, but like I said before, it doesn't always work for fighters that have been figting a certain style for a long time.
                    Cotto doesnt have the reach to fight outside. And his shots are waaaay too wide on the inside. When fighting a skilled fighter, he gets beat up easily.

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                    • TheSurgeonMDMPH
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by The.Eyetalian
                      I advise both of you to watch Cotto..and Boxing in general..because through out this thread..you both are making yourselves look like idiots..seriously..
                      how so? plz explain.

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