Ortiz-Campbell: A smell another Maidana incident coming

[SoldierWarrior]

Never happens.

You never know, Bradley isn't the hardest puncher but he isn't the weakest either. He can probably make some fighters fold with accumulation of punishment.

[Spray_resistant]

Well I'm not one of them so I guess we're good. I don't expect fighters to all be tough like Gatti, nor do I expect them to take beatings for no good reason. IMO Clottey would've been justified in quitting against Pacquiao. He had no chance to win and was taking unnecessary punishment.

The only thing we disagree on is "Victor's toughness". You think he's tough, I'm not convinced. Let's agree to disagree.

I do not share your feelings on that particular situation and Clottey who didn't take that much punishment while not really trying to win.

[Calilloyd]

He folded under a beating not preassure and as usual a ****** boxing fan thinks he knows what a boxers body is telling him more than the boxer itself. and I already know what you are going to say "well if he doesn't want to get punched in the face he should get another job" which is 100% wrong. Ortiz didn't just get punched in the face he had the ****t beat out of him. He was done at that point so my question to you is why take more punishment? Because there was a slight chance he might pull off some last minute comeback? Because he should be a warrior? *** that **** boxing is a sport not a ***ing duel to the death.

My take is so he quit so the *** what? His career will be longer and his brain wont be fried when he gets older unlike so many of these so called warriors who ****t in diapers and don't even know their own name.


Plus your MMA comment shows just how little thought you actually put into your argument when you have to bring up something so unrelated to the actual subject we are debating.

Coming from the guy that loves to call Dirrell a coward and faker from a fight he was winning. Typical boxing hypocrite when it comes to double standards..

[pistol whip]

Is it a learning experience for Ortiz when Bradley who isn't a big puncher makes Ortiz quit?

Why would bradley make Ortiz quit? He has 1/3 the power maidana has and he is in no way capable of making anyone quit much less Ortiz.

[Calilloyd]

Why would bradley make Ortiz quit? He has 1/3 the power maidana has and he is in no way capable of making anyone quit much less Ortiz.

Well one thing we know for sure, Bradley has twice as much heart as Ortiz.

[pistol whip]

Coming from the guy that loves to call Dirrell a coward and faker from a fight he was winning. Typical boxing hypocrite when it comes to double standards..

What? I never called Andre a coward and in fact defended him against naysayers on this very board. You got me confused with someone else.

[BMWM3P]

Ortiz will quit again as soon as he gets into a tough situation. We have another Freitas in the making.

[pistol whip]

Well one thing we know for sure, Bradley has twice as much heart as Ortiz.

You can't compare because Bradley never got hit by a big puncher as many times as Victor did in any fight he's ever had. Sure he got knocked down once or twice but he wasn't taking a savage beating like Victor did.

[SoldierWarrior]

You can't compare because Bradley never got hit by a big puncher as many times as Victor did in any fight he's ever had. Sure he got knocked down once or twice but he wasn't taking a savage beating like Victor did.

A savage beating? That fight was close, he quit in a fight that was close because he hurt Maidana except Maidana isn't no quitter!

I disagree with your sir on alot of things especially with this, I personally feel Ortiz could have changed the fight around since both fighters had their moments. The lack of heart showed in that fight.

[dans]

Not everyone can be Arturo Gatti and there is a reason why that made Gatti special. Becasue Gatti was the "only" fighter to comeback from beatings like that and it made him a legend. If every fighter could do that then Gatti would never have been that special fighter everyone loved, he would of just been an average fighter with average toughness. So don't question Victors toughness when there are very few fighters out there that wouldn't have quit themselves had they taken that pounding. Not everyone can be Gatti you know.

Another point here. Like you say, not everyone can be like Gatti. There are different levels of mental and physical toughness. I believe Campbell is tougher than Ortiz, which is why I think Campbell may be able to beat Ortiz.