If Cotto outboxed Mosley what makes you think Floyd wont?

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  • Ravishing
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    #21
    Just watch this video. You can see throughout the majority of the fight that Cotto was bringing the fight to Mosley. Floyd doesn't attack in that way more than letting his opponent make the 1st move if he's right in front of him. This fight was fought at a very high pace with both guys throwing and landing.

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    • Clyde Barrow
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      #22
      Mosley won't fight PBF the same way he fought Cotto. 2 different fighters. I don't think Shane respected Cotto nearly as much as he respects PBF. And of course PBF won't press as hard as Cotto did. Even though Cotto was playing the boxer himself most of the time, he sat down on his punches, pressured Mosley, moved him when he hit him, and muscled him in clinches. PBF won't do any of that.

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        #23
        Originally posted by bojangles1987
        It's irrelevant the way people are using it, as if Cotto fights anything like or is similar in any way to Floyd Mayweather. And Cotto did not easily win those rounds at the end of the fight, are you kidding? That's when Mosley made his push because Cotto started to fade.

        Just like the people who think Cotto was successfully boxing Pacquiao when he started moving, ridiculous.
        I didn't say he won them easy (don't know where you saw that) but he did win them doing something that Floyd excels at. And like you said Cotto was starting to fade, which is something PBF just doesn't do.

        I think Floyd can do what Cotto did in those last 4 rounds for a full twelve, without fading. Mosley will steal some rounds here and there, but not many. And no way a faded Cotto hits harder than a fresh PBF. Cotto hits hard but not that hard.
        Last edited by PH|L; 04-21-2010, 10:27 AM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by PH|L
          I didn't say he won them easy (don't know where you saw that) but he did win them doing something that Floyd excels at. And like you said Cotto was starting to fade, which is something PBF just doesn't do.

          I think Floyd can do what Cotto did in those last 4 rounds for a full twelve, without fading. Mosley will steal some rounds here and there, but not many. And no way a faded Cotto hits harder than a fresh PBF. Cotto hits hard but not that hard.
          Mosley was winning most those rounds at the end of the fight. I don't know how you have Cotto winning 3 of the last 4 rounds. And he was not fighting like Floyd at all. He won most his rounds not fighting anything resembling like Floyd Mayweather.

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            #25
            Originally posted by PH|L
            I didn't say he won them easy (don't know where you saw that) but he did win them doing something that Floyd excels at. And like you said Cotto was starting to fade, which is something PBF just doesn't do.

            I think Floyd can do what Cotto did in those last 4 rounds for a full twelve, without fading. Mosley will steal some rounds here and there, but not many. And no way a faded Cotto hits harder than a fresh PBF. Cotto hits hard but not that hard.
            I think Cotto has accumulative power, but you also have to look at the competition he's faced at WW and how good they can take a punch. Floyd's not really been in that type of environment at WW which makes this fight with Mosley really intriguing.

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              #26
              Originally posted by JBell11
              Because he has a strategist - Brother ****m Richardson - Mosely is the type of fighter that needs technical guidance.
              I hear you... i just dont think that'll be enough at this stage. Maybe some years back but not today

              Originally posted by tredh
              Because PBF is not Cotto thats why!!! Cotto's jab, footwork, ring generalship, smarts, corner, reflexes, punch accuracy, etc is all better than PBF's. So why would anybody think PBF could do what Cotto did?

              Yes its major sarcasm
              LOL... i was bout to go IN until i read that last line

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                #27
                Originally posted by Clyde Barrow
                Mosley won't fight PBF the same way he fought Cotto. 2 different fighters. I don't think Shane respected Cotto nearly as much as he respects PBF. And of course PBF won't press as hard as Cotto did. Even though Cotto was playing the boxer himself most of the time, he sat down on his punches, pressured Mosley, moved him when he hit him, and muscled him in clinches. PBF won't do any of that.
                Hmm, so you think Mosley will be able to pressure Floyd and execute his gameplan?

                But in retrospect isn't that gameplan perfectly designed for Floyds defensive 1st, counter-punching style?

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                • North Star
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Piper the Great
                  1. Cotto fought shane. He came forward something floyd only does on a video game
                  2. They landed the same amount of punches so where is the out boxing in that
                  3. No more Jack & that power boxing
                  4. Shoulder roll don't stop a right hand.
                  5. Shane is faster & will counter him
                  6. May 1 = May's 1st
                  Cotto did outbox Shane. What the punch stats do not show is that Cotto controlled the pace and dictated the action. That is called ring generalship and even Mosely commented in the post fight interview that the kid can box, which caught him by surprise. Besides, you shouldn't put too much stock in Compubox because it is not as accurate as you'd think.

                  I think you are confused. The shoulder roll defense is not effective against southpaws, but is was made to defend especially against right hand fighters.

                  Shane is not faster than Floyd. He's a step or two behind Floyd. If Cotto was able to beat Shane to the punch, Floyd most definitely will too.

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                    #29
                    The only reason that some people on boxingscene believe that Mosley is going to win is because they want to see Floyd loose. I think the only person right now who has a chance is Manny.

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                      #30
                      I think it's because Shane is bigger and has a reach. Not to mention he's almost just as fast. That right there gives him a pretty solid chance. I don't think he's faster but Shane is petty fast which gives him an above average chance in this fight. Not to mention he's bigger and has a longer reach. I think Shane will box from a distance which will make Floyd have to get closer if he wants to hit him since Shane has reach, and when Floyd comes in thats when I think Shane brawls and bullies him.

                      IDK I just think Shane has a great chance especially with his new trainer. I think were in for a solid fight.

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