When has Arreola's really affected any of his fights.

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How is he an idiot? It's the truth. I remember seeing Arreola say in an interview that he can't help drinking beer and eating tacos. (Or something around those lines). The guy has no discipline.

Athleat's can't drink beer and eat tacos? Whats funny is most people never considered George forman a fat slob and they knew how hard he worked in training camp even if his body didn't show it.


Again this is not a beauty contests

[BoxerDood]

Athleat's can't drink beer and eat tacos? Whats funny is most people never considered George forman a fat slob and they knew how hard he worked in training camp even if his body didn't show it.


Again this is not a beauty contests

But that's the thing, Arreola HAS shown it. He hasn't looked the same in his fights. Much slower and sloppy. Yes he was always like that, but you can't say it isn't getting worse.

And as I said, his weight isn't the only problem. There are times where he just doesn't train (the Klitschko fight, which he openly admitted he didn't train for). And then on top of that, he comes out for his next fight looking even worse, and then weighing in at a career high weight! And I don't even wanna say what he ballooned up to on fight night.

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Arreola was 239 against Witherspoon, looked good, then went up to near 260 pounds in his next fight. It's not because he was younger, he just let himself go, plain and simple. After the fight he admitted that he needed to get in better shape.

Arreola doesn't look "fat" in the first picture. Not looking like Wladimir Klitschko doesn't mean he's "fat". But in his past couple of fights he has looked "fat" indeed although I think he will come in decent shape to his next fight because he realizes what he must do in order to go from being a contender to being a champion. The Klitschko brothers are champions because they always show up in the best possible condition.

Oh I agree with you on every point but my point is people are overexagerating his weight issue and making this more about looks than actual conditioning.

I would love to see him back at 230 again and yes he should watch his weight but when people call him a disgrace and a fat slob I tend to question their abulity to comprahend the fact that fat out of shape slobs can't box more than a round or two without having a heart attack much less box successfully against top HW's.

The guys cardio is just fine but what people are just having trouble with is that he doesn't look pretty enough for their tastes. Seems a bit shallow to me.

[TheGreatA]

Athleat's can't drink beer and eat tacos? Whats funny is most people never considered George forman a fat slob and they knew how hard he worked in training camp even if his body didn't show it.


Again this is not a beauty contests

Foreman was 40+ years old. Compare the Foreman of the 1970's to Arreola.

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But that's the thing, Arreola HAS shown it. He hasn't looked the same in his fights. Much slower and sloppy. Yes he was always like that, but you can't say it isn't getting worse.

And as I said, his weight isn't the only problem. There are times where he just doesn't train (the Klitschko fight, which he openly admitted he didn't train for). And then on top of that, he comes out for his next fight looking even worse, and then weighing in at a career high weight! And I don't even wanna say what he ballooned up to on fight night.

Just because he said he ate tacos and drank beer doesn't mean he didn't train. Thats an "assumption" you are making so don't get the two confused.


And no I can't say it's getting worse because me or you arn't qualified to really make that judgement.

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Foreman was 40+ years old. Compare the Foreman of the 1970's to Arreola.

Forman started his comback in his mid 30's and was just as fat when he was in his 40's and won the title.

[TheGreatA]

Oh I agree with you on every point but my point is people are overexagerating his weight issue and making this more about looks than actual conditioning.

I would love to see him back at 230 again and yes he should watch his weight but when people call him a disgrace and a fat slob I tend to question their abulity to comprahend the fact that fat out of shape slobs can't box more than a round or two without having a heart attack much less box successfully against top HW's.

The guys cardio is just fine but what people are just having trouble with is that he doesn't look pretty enough for their tastes. Seems a bit shallow to me.

I agree he shouldn't have his heart questioned, he fights with his all and never gives up in the ring, but he doesn't seem to be willing to invest everything on boxing. I don't blame him but professionals like the Klitschko brothers will always have an edge over him for that reason. It's much like Ricky Hatton blowing up in weight in between fights, sure he worked hard in the gym and looked good by fight time but it would eventually catch up to him, and his career at the top didn't last very long. Even if Arreola does fine now, the effects will show later.

[TheGreatA]

Forman started his comback in his mid 30's and was just as fat when he was in his 40's and won the title.

He was 39 when he started his comeback after 10 years away from the sport. Even then he actually got down to a good weight for a couple of fights, but it was difficult for him to train down at age 40. It's a bit unfair to compare his situation to Arreola's, who should be in the prime of his life.

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You keep saying he isn't in shape so why is he able to fight at a pro level?


I seriously think you have a misguided view of what out of shape is. Out of shape is weezing and dying on the mat after 2 min of boxing. Out of shape is not being able to have a very good Boxing record against solid HW's.



Let's say what this really is Chris just isn't pretty enough for you.

His point is, could Arreola be a better fighter in shape?

Like this, Is Lennox Lewis better in shape or not in shape?

The fact that Arreola isn't in shape and has never doesn't mean he wouldn't be better.

Heck even a year ago his team made a huge effort for him to lose weight and he even said he was trying.

[BoxerDood]

Just because he said he ate tacos and drank beer doesn't mean he didn't train. Thats an "assumption" you are making so don't get the two confused.


And no I can't say it's getting worse because me or you arn't qualified to really make that judgement.

I don't think you read my post completely. I said he OPENLY admitted that he didn't train for the Klitschko fight. And there were multiple fights prior to then that he didn't train seriously, fat cow or not. Anyone can eat their hearts out as long as they work it off during training (just look at Ricky Hatton, although many can argue that the extra weight affected his performances too). The extra weight is just further proof.