Paul Williams is getting no respect on this board.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

contrary to what you said, i think the guy is overated... recieved a gift decision from his last fight...

You been watching boxing since the Hatton-Floyd 24/7 in 2007. So I wont fault you on not knowing what a gift decision is.

[JM1]

Martinez
Prime Margarito

ARE GREAT WINS.

Martinez went on to beat Pavlik.
Marg went on to **** Cotto.


Who cares that he beat Diaz. Thats great. Fact is Diaz is done now did he not prove that vs. Paulie when Paulie ricked him and hurt him?

It doesnt matter who is more skilled between JMM and Paul thats not how the list works. If so JMM would be ranked over Pac because hes more skilled then Pacquiao.

Resume also doesnt matter. The P4P List is a what have you done for me lately list.

like always, theres some questions that you didnt answer. ill try asking it again,

so just because hopkins is shot, williams is supposed to be ranked higher than him automatically?

and are you trying to tell me that paul's win against margarito back in 2007 should be considered when ranking him in the top10 p4p for 2010??

who cares if he beat diaz? WE CARE. now heres another question, WAS juan diaz DONE when he fought jmm? yes or no? no ducking pls

skills and resume are widely considered when ranking a top p4p. another question, why do you think NONITO DONAIRE is currently the top6 p4p?

burner, i would kindly ask you to answer the questions and stop ducking. thanks

[JM1]

[/B]

Ever heard of Antonio Margaritio? The guy that stopped one of the fighters on that list?

so his win against margo in 2007 is the reason for you as to why he should be ranked higher in the names given in the 2010 p4p list?

given your logic, i would say pac is the #1 p4p cause he beat barrera back in 2003

[z0jo]

paul williams and kelly pavlik ae two of the most overrated fighters in boxing imo

[JM1]

and by the way burner, why is floyd at #2 if skills doesnt matter when ranking a p4p fighter? is floyd at #2 because he beat a fat jmm at welter?

[JM1]

paul williams and kelly pavlik ae two of the most overrated fighters in boxing imo

i dont think paul is overrated. he just need to add more decent names in his resume

[cleaner147]

Ive seen people rank Cotto, JMM, Martinez and Hopkins over him.

Gimme a damn break here.

until the days he beats Cotto, Dinamita and Maravilla and Bhop in one night there coouuld be a case to rate him over those motha****ers..otherwise I dont know and I dont care less if Dinamita has to move up 2 division or 10.

[boxaholic]

I have mad respect for Pwill. The fight I seen him live he lost 12 rounds to Quintana. He had a close win vs Martinez ( I thought Martinez barely won) that validated how good he is considiring how Sergio beat Pavlik at 160. Top 5 no for me top 10 definately.

Pwill vs Martinez at 154 is what I want to see.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

like always, theres some questions that you didnt answer. ill try asking it again,

so just because hopkins is shot, williams is supposed to be ranked higher than him automatically?

Yes. Hopkins is shot. He proved that in the Roy Jones fight. If you are shot that means you arent one of the ten best in the world. DUH!!

and are you trying to tell me that paul's win against margarito back in 2007 should be considered when ranking him in the top10 p4p for 2010??

Didnt you just ask me if JMM had a better rsume then Paul? So you want to factor in JMM wins and not Paul? Get out of here and be consistent. How about his win over Martinez. You know the guy that just beat Pavlik? That counts right?

who cares if he beat diaz? WE CARE. now heres another question, WAS juan diaz DONE when he fought jmm? yes or no? no ducking pls

No and I never said he was. Hes done now. Thanks in part to JMM who brutally KO'd him. Diaz is finished dont believe me go watch the Paulie fight he got destroyed by a feather fist fighter and even hurt by him.

skills and resume are widely considered when ranking a top p4p. another question, why do you think NONITO DONAIRE is currently the top6 p4p?

Again here you go contradicting yourself. This is what you just said in the very post Im responding to.

"and are you trying to tell me that paul's win against margarito back in 2007 should be considered when ranking him in the top10 p4p for 2010??"

So now skills and resume is widely considered. When you just said Pauls Margarito win shouldnt factor in him being rank. Make up your mind. Then you bring up Donaire. As if to say what?....that he has a good resume? ...lolol. He has one good win. Vic. He aint fought nobody since.

burner, i would kindly ask you to answer the questions and stop ducking. thanks

The hell are you talking about. Stick to Pac subjects you know nothing about this one.

[Sparked_1985]

I rate him,his sheer will made the fight with Martinez close. I can appreciate that kind of application to his sport. I still thought Martinez beat him by two points though.

If he can win convincingy against Martinez in a rematch his star would rise, but regardless of the result (the first time around) it basically looked like Martinez was the superior, more talented and skilled fighter. That's why his rep took a hit.