Comments Thread For: Edwin Valero Commits Suicide in His Jail Cell

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  • switchsouthpaw
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    #311
    Originally posted by jtiger78
    just wierd to me people dont know **** about situations or people and are quick to talk all this **** but innocent people are shot up and killed by the us military daily for no reason but nobody gives a ****? c'mon son... i feel bad for this guy his wife and his kids but i dont know him his wife or the situation so all i can do is feel bad for them.... if u want me to curse a dead man out and talk about how ****ed up he was change the topic to christopher columbus or hitler or somebody then ull have my attention!
    Lol what planet does your brain operate on?

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    • switchsouthpaw
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      #312
      Originally posted by JAB5239
      [COLOR="Navy"]He doesn't even come close to making ab all time list at any weight. Knocking out stiffs doesn't prove greatness. He's always been overrated. Now he's still being overrated and is a murderer and coward.[/COLOR]
      Exactly--hard to predict if he would have been great, he had certain attributes that might have gotten him there, but he isn't even pound for pound, just a very exciting fighter who possessed the ability to do some special things in the sport, leave it that.

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      • ulises_solis
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        #313
        rest in peace warrior
        u are up there knocking out angels in the heaven

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        • WarriorSoul
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          #314
          Originally posted by ulises_solis
          rest in peace warrior
          u are up there knocking out angels in the heaven

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          • switchsouthpaw
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            #315
            Originally posted by Lorily
            After having read through all the comments in this thread, there are a couple of things I would like to point out....
            First, you can only blame the "system" to a certain extent. You know the saying "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink". There are a few ludicrous fans on here that want to make it everyone elses fault but the man himself. In the end, Valero had his own choices to make... and he ultimately made the worst of worst. Final blame is on himself.
            Secondly, alot of people who have never been in the situation themselves think that in theory it is sooo easy for a woman in a bad situation to just 'up and leave'. The situation becomes 100 times more complicated when there are children involved. You have to be realistic in the thought that Mrs. Valeros last visit to the hospital was not the first time the man laid hands on her. Remember, the woman was married to him... spent hours apon hours with this man, no one knows how many non life threatining times the man beat her before that (and maybe worse). The woman was CLEARLY scared, and obviously she knew that he was fully capable and willing to kill her, to think that her just saying "yeah, he did it, take him away" after this beating would mean that he would never hurt her again is completely naive. What was she supposed to do, just pack a bag, take her kids next door and just say "ok, I'm done with you". In theory, that's peaches... but it is not realistic. Anyone who took her in would probably be in danger as well. God only knows what all else went on behind the scenes and for how long, and when you add that he was a raging alchoholic, his wife & children were probably scared beyond comprehension. More than likely, he was the 'Monster in the closet'. When you add alchohol and anger, it is a horrific combination. She could have even told him the night of her murder that she was done and was leaving him (we will never know now), and that could have set him off to murder her.
            Lastly, the conspiracy theorists are putting their head in the sand. The idea that the 'cartel' was following him around, followed him to this hotel that they checked in to at 11:30 at night... came in and stabbed his wife to death, made him go to the front desk and calmly confess... and then that he was (more than likely) murdered in a jail cell within hours of his in-process (by hanging him with HIS OWN clothes) - are grasping at straws. The more realistic opinion would say that the man knew his life was over after he brutally took his wifes life, and that he did not want to deal with his consequences. It is not really a mystery that they didn't find the knife or there was no blood on him (if there wasn't), his first instinct after the murder was more than likely to try to attempt to rid himself of the evidence and after coming to his senses (or sobering up) realized that it would be impossible after all that had already happened and the timeline to remove himself from the scenario.
            I don't mean to be long winded about the subject, however after reading so many comments between the last few weeks and now, it concerned me how many people want to easily dismiss and blame other people. The hard cold truth is that HE stole a womans life and ROBBED his children of their mother. The fact that he is dead (wether by his own hand or by someone elses) is neither here nor there.
            Wow--powerful post.

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            • P.WILL
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              #316
              Two kids, one 5 and the other 8.

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              • switchsouthpaw
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                #317
                Originally posted by HotSizzle
                I agree with this, no one really knows what was going on with this guy and his wife. Only god can judge him now.
                I think the general point is not necessarily to judge the man, irrespective of anything you or anyone thinks his wife may have done to contribute to this....she is 100% without blame, she had done nothing wrong. If they had problems, you seek a divorce like everyone else.

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                • -Mustang-
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                  #318
                  Originally posted by Joe2608
                  ****ed up stuff. Valero was a bad person but you shouldn't wish death on anyone. Some will feel like justice is done and some will feel like it's a tragedy.

                  If he had welcomed the help then maybe this mess wouldn't have happened. He was supposed to do 6 months rehab but instead he checked out early and ruined lives.
                  i'm stuck in between, i felt he deserved the worst for killing the mother of his kids last night ... now today i felt ... what a ****in tragedy , now their children have no parents, my thoughts are with them

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                  • DLjunky
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                    #319
                    I was actually looking forward to seeing this guy fight on PPV one day...Feel sorry for the kids.

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                    • tesla_power
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                      #320
                      This is a very bad week. RIP Valero. You would have done much greater if you only screw your head tight. tsk tsk tsk.

                      Guys, let's stop bashing him. I feel for the wife and especially the kids but who knows what is really going on with his head. One thing is certain, a sane man could not have done this. Condolences.

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