If Floyd is a runner, WTH is Martinez?!?!?!?

[Spray_resistant]

Martinez isn't even that hard of a puncher. His KO% is pretty weak, at 154 Mayweather beats him in a one sided decision.

ko% doesn't tell the whole story, I hate when ppl go by punch stats to judge fights and ko rates to gauge a fighters power.

His lower ko% is due to his low output counter puncher style.

Doesn't that make sense, the more punches you throw the greater your chances are to land a ko shot.......and get ko'd yourself too.

[Kagami Taiga]

I have to agree that there were a few rounds that Martinez did too much running. Those rounds were stinkers if you ask me. I wished there was some kind of creative rule that prevented all that running.

Floyd fans need to remember this about Martinez. He faced Paul Williams who many have avoided and now a 178 pound Pavlik. Both are bigger than him and young.

Floyd has been fighting many guys who belong in lighter weight divisions than him or who are not in their prime anymore. More importantly, Floyd was always heavily favoured.

Imagine people are saying that a 39 year old Mosley will be Floyd's toughest fight. Martinez did not wait until Paul Williams was past his prime.

It's still not too late for Floyd to really be considered what he thinks he is BUT he needs to step it up.

dude, old ass mosely is easily better than both pavlik and williams. and there is no way williams is bigger than martinez...good try tho.

and we arent comparing all the nonsense ur comparin, we are tlkin about running. martinez is good, but as far as resumes, floyds is better and as far as skill floyd is better. so none of that other stuff matters.

[Kagami Taiga]

ko% doesn't tell the whole story, I hate when ppl go by punch stats to judge fights and ko rates to gauge a fighters power.

His lower ko% is due to his low output counter puncher style.

Doesn't that make sense, the more punches you throw the greater your chances are to land a ko shot.......and get ko'd yourself too.

he aint a hard puncher...thats clear. no matter how ur word it, his punches dont do much damage.

[Spray_resistant]

he aint a hard puncher...thats clear. no matter how ur word it, his punches dont do much damage.

Cintron thought he was headbutt he was hit so hard and Pwill went down for the 1st time I had seen against him.....so he certainly hits harder than Margarito if he throws so many fewer punches and was able to do what Tony was not against Pwill.

Judging by Pavlik's face, It also looked like his punches do damage tonight.

[ippo]

dude, old ass mosely is easily better than both pavlik and williams. and there is no way williams is bigger than martinez...good try tho.

and we arent comparing all the nonsense ur comparin, we are tlkin about running. martinez is good, but as far as resumes, floyds is better and as far as skill floyd is better. so none of that other stuff matters.

No i wouldn't say mosley is better.Mosley is too old and it will show when he fights floyd.Marg is too one dimensional and had problems going into that fight. Everyone is judging Mosley off just his one fight with Marg.He looked bad against mayorga and others before that.Sergio beat cintron and should of gotten the nod against paul and just now beat pavlik.He is on a roll right now.

[Kagami Taiga]

No i wouldn't say mosley is better.Mosley is too old and it will show when he fights floyd.Marg is too one dimensional and had problems going into that fight. Everyone is judging Mosley off just his one fight with Marg.He looked bad against mayorga and others before that.Sergio beat cintron and should of gotten the nod against paul and just now beat pavlik.He is on a roll right now.

well right now mosely is ranked p4p higher, he has by far the better resume and he's fighting in a more difficult divison. all that spells out mosely is better than all of them. well, mebbe not pwill, but itd still be close.

[ADP02]

dude, old ass mosely is easily better than both pavlik and williams. and there is no way williams is bigger than martinez...good try tho.

and we arent comparing all the nonsense ur comparin, we are tlkin about running. martinez is good, but as far as resumes, floyds is better and as far as skill floyd is better. so none of that other stuff matters.

I like the way you twist my words but my points stand! Please Go back and read it again. I even state the point about running more than most of the other posts! lol!

I like Mosley and think he has a chance. Still, this may be the fight that he looks old "enough" to lose. I'm pulling for Mosley. Still, imagine a younger primed Mosley? The odds would have been different.

By the way, I was not comparing Martinez to Floyd as boxers. I was comparing how Martinez had the balls to go after a young Paul Williams, who many have avoided, including Floyd.

[Kagami Taiga]

I like the way you twist my words but my points stand! Please Go back and read it again. I even state the point about running more than most of the other posts! lol!

I like Mosley and think he has a chance. Still, this may be the fight that he looks old "enough" to lose. I'm pulling for Mosley. Still, imagine a younger primed Mosley? The odds would have been different.

By the way, I was not comparing Martinez to Floyd as boxers. I was comparing how Martinez had the balls to go after a young Paul Williams, who many have avoided, including Floyd.

the difference ppl fail to get on this forums is that certain fighters are at vastly different stages of their career. martinez has no choice but to fight fighters like williams and pavlik. he's an up and coming fighter. floyd worked his way up in the lower divs. and when he wanted a shot at the top, aka mosely, he was rebuffed. but he beat just about everyone else in those divs. and he started makin money. so now he gets to pick and choose his fights. idc that he doesnt fight pwill, because mosely and pac are much bigger fights. as long as he is fighting the best, it makes sense.

[BEEHOP]

ko% doesn't tell the whole story, I hate when ppl go by punch stats to judge fights and ko rates to gauge a fighters power.

His lower ko% is due to his low output counter puncher style.

Doesn't that make sense, the more punches you throw the greater your chances are to land a ko shot.......and get ko'd yourself too.

I do agree with this, but he is mos def not a KO fighter. Similar to Kendall Holt, who has power, but doesn't KO often.

He could not KO Floyd ever, Shane easily hits harder, and I would favor Shane over Sergio.


Edit: I shouldn't have wrote that he doesn't hit hard, he does hit hard, but he rarely stops his opponents.

[Dick Buffman]

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No he doesn't. He's primarily a counter puncher.

he might be at times but most of the time he gets off first.

especially last night.