Comments Thread For: Mayweather Jabs: '****ty Shane Mosley with The Nose Job'

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if Oscar was able to impose himself on floyd enough to only lose by a SD- i think mosley has a much wider margin for a chance to decision floyd. he says knock out, and god bless him but i'm just being realistic. nobody is talking about it in these terms but shane could decision floyd by winning ring generalship and staying consistently/successfully offensive the whole fight (like castillo)

i feel a lot more confident with shane's camp now too after hearing ****m say he thinks floyd is going to "turn into a dragon" in the ring. that is the exact right approach. because noone can shortchange floyd's offense. just cos hes defensive doesnt mean he can't pinpoint and accumulate high quality punches, he gets his KO's because of his precision rather than strength.

i think ****m is training shane for a wrath that floyd hasn't shown against any true welterweights yet, but that is still down inside of him somewhere. but shane is stronger, and he'll be able to connect more shots than anyone floyd's fought since... i suppose oscar? but he'll land more than oscar did for sure.

Great Post!!!!

Only problem was that fight wasn't anywhere near to be an SD. It was a clear Floyd victory.

If you don't think that the split decision they gave floyd was bull**** you're out of your mind. Just go listen to max kellerman and what he said after the fight. There is no way that Oscar won that fight. NO way.

Whether we agree to it or not De La Hoya won on one of the judges scorecards 115-113 therefore it goes as a split decision. Not that I agree to that.

What you guys are missing from Mike R point is that Mosley is capable of improving De La Hoya performance against PBF, which was not a bad one, by continuosly putting the same pressure De La Hoya did but for a longer period of time.

The way is see this is similar to what Mosley did with Margarito in terms of gameplan preparation. (obviously, PBF is way better than Margarito). I see ****m studying De La Hoya success in some timeframe during the fight and using it with Mosly same as ****m used some of Cotto's success during the Margarito fight and we all know the results of Mosley-Margarito.

The difference in those cases from De La Hoya and Cotto is that Mosley was able to maintain that game plan during the whole fight, without letting his opponent get comfortable and establish their own gameplan.

That's were Mosley has an advantage that might, and i repeat might, give him the victory.

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Everyone seen a different fight in this one and rightfully so it was a close bout.But I want to point out a few things to you.They landed the same amount of punches with Cotto out landing him in power shots.they were in MGS were the crowd was pro Cotto and the crowd was chanting mosley's name.Cotto style was to come foward and break his opponent down his entire style change that night and has never been heard of again.I'm sorry dude but IMHO Cotto got a home cook meal plain and simple.But i respect you stand on it as we are all entitled to or own opinions..

Chanting an opponents name means abolutely nothing. So what? You're right when you said that Cotto changed up his style. But if you look at the fight, he was breaking down Mosley around the 5 or 6th round. It was Mosley who decided to use a different tatci once he realized that the big right hands were not working

[GRUSTLER]

I think a lot of you underestimate Floyd's durability. Has me
questioning, how many of Floyd's fights have you guys really
been watching? Even ****m Richardson said that Floyd is
a dragon in the ring. That kid has a chin and he's been hit
flushed before and keeps fighting. In regards to him talking
smack all the time. My question is, who else is going to see
the fight? Because it sure enough ain't Mosley. I think a lot
of you guys take Floyd outside ring personality to heart and
maybe that is perhaps his goal because that gets him the
looks and big $. To me all that talk is just marketing and
promotion.

[GRUSTLER]

Chanting an opponents name means abolutely nothing. So what? You're right when you said that Cotto changed up his style. But if you look at the fight, he was breaking down Mosley around the 5 or 6th round. It was Mosley who decided to use a different tatci once he realized that the big right hands were not working

I think both changed their strategies that night. Mosley was
surprised to see Cotto take them bombs because I saw it in
his eyes when he hit Cotto Flush. Cotto had to change his
aggressive approach because he couldn't break Mosley down.

[amayseng]

I think a lot of you underestimate Floyd's durability. Has me
questioning, how many of Floyd's fights have you guys really
been watching? Even ****m Richardson said that Floyd is
a dragon in the ring. That kid has a chin and he's been hit
flushed before and keeps fighting. In regards to him talking
smack all the time. My question is, who else is going to see
the fight? Because it sure enough ain't Mosley. I think a lot
of you guys take Floyd outside ring personality to heart and
maybe that is perhaps his goal because that gets him the
looks and big $. To me all that talk is just marketing and
promotion.

well of course it is marketing and floyd trying to sell the fight, but that doesnt mean that fans have to like the way he acts or talks.

first off, dude aint funny, he says **** trying to be he aint.
secondly, i dont mind the ****y, conceded arrogant rants and talk, that is enough for me to want to see him fight, some see him lose
what bothers me is that he puts himself in the category of the all time greats like ali, frazier, foreman, duran, hagler, leonard, hearns.
those guys were the real boxing warriors, the elites who fought eachother.
they didnt fight 1 time a year, they didnt dodge eachother, they wanted to be the best and all fought the best. that is what true boxing fans can see.

i dont care that floyd thinks he is the best, sure he should feel that way if he wants to be, but dont come at us real boxing fans and tell us that, because you are not, and with your resume and retiring twice keeps you off of that list with those guys...

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well of course it is marketing and floyd trying to sell the fight, but that doesnt mean that fans have to like the way he acts or talks.

first off, dude aint funny, he says **** trying to be he aint.
secondly, i dont mind the ****y, conceded arrogant rants and talk, that is enough for me to want to see him fight, some see him lose
what bothers me is that he puts himself in the category of the all time greats like ali, frazier, foreman, duran, hagler, leonard, hearns.
those guys were the real boxing warriors, the elites who fought eachother.
they didnt fight 1 time a year, they didnt dodge eachother, they wanted to be the best and all fought the best. that is what true boxing fans can see.

i dont care that floyd thinks he is the best, sure he should feel that way if he wants to be, but dont come at us real boxing fans and tell us that, because you are not, and with your resume and retiring twice keeps you off of that list with those guys...

Just because he says he is the best doesn't make it so.
You know the truth so what does it matter if he thinks
it himself? I keep saying, different times, different fighters.
Floyd can say whatever he wants as long as he backs it up
and fights. At the end of the day, no one will truly be able
to do what Ali, Robinson, Hagler and Leornard did? Same will
be said when the next generation comes after the one now.

[Tweezy316]

first off kellerman is an idiot more than he is right,
secondly winning rounds in the judges eyes wins fights.

i had floyd winning 7 rounds to 5 against an old odlh 4 years ago.

we will see how an older floyd does against a very good shane, even at this stage

You're an idiot for calling de la hoya old at 34 and shane is very good at 38 wtf? You're so biased you don't even know it. Some of the best fighters in mma are 34 to 35 years old. FACT!

[Thread Stealer]

Well in fairness to May it's not the same time.In those day's ducking was un heard of really everyone fought everyone and money was never a big issue like that.Even in the Leonard vs Hagler fight it was more mind games then it was about money really.Floyd has fought some good fighters(Mostly in lower weightclasses)He also had some bad one's but I still think Floyd is a great fighter.If he pull's of a win vs Mosley I'll put him high on the atg list.I just think he bit off more then he can chew with Shane.

Money, or more appropriately, risk/reward, has ALWAYS been a big reason in fighters getting "ducked", or "avoided", throughout boxing's history.

From Sam Langford/Harry Wills/George Godfrey not getting title shots at HW to the Black Murderers Row of the 1940s to Roberto Duran giving up his WBA belt at 154 to fight a big money match with Tommy Hearns while Mike McCallum sat there on the outside looking in.

It's always been like that and most likely always will be.