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Lineal champion does not equal Ring champion or vice versa
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostNo he was not the lineal champ, John Ruiz had the #2 spot and Vitaly had to beat him to be lineal champ.
Not every time a #1 fights a #3 is for the title. Just in CERTAIN instances...
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Originally posted by Clyde Barrow View PostThe lineal title was definitely at stake when Vital beat Sanders mate. They only block the title from being rewarded in a 1 v 3 matchup if the #2 ranked man has unfinished business with 1 or 3. Pac-MAB 2 is an example of this. Draw with Pac, win over MAB, so Ring wouldn't allow the lineage to be reactivated. Not so with Ruiz at the time of Vitali-Sanders.
http://www.maxboxing.com/Cliff/Rold040908.asp
The coronation of big brother Vitali Klitschko as Heavyweight champion for his first win over a currently rated Ring top ten fighter, ever, against Corrie Sanders in 2004. Much as he was loathsome to watch, John Ruiz’s rebound from the Roy Jones loss with wins over Hasim Rahman and Fres Oquendo were more meritorious than anything Klitscko had actually finished when he entered the ring with Sanders.
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostThe Ring does not decide lineage though, they decide ring champions. Sometimes they do get it right however sometimes they don't.
http://www.maxboxing.com/Cliff/Rold040908.asp
The coronation of big brother Vitali Klitschko as Heavyweight champion for his first win over a currently rated Ring top ten fighter, ever, against Corrie Sanders in 2004. Much as he was loathsome to watch, John Ruiz’s rebound from the Roy Jones loss with wins over Hasim Rahman and Fres Oquendo were more meritorious than anything Klitscko had actually finished when he entered the ring with Sanders.
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Originally posted by istmeno View Postactually that is the way the ring title is decided. to re establish lineage you need 3 of the four major belts
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I always thought it was "linear" champion.
anyway, I already knew this as Shannon Briggs was once the linear HW champ after he beat Foreman despite not having any belt
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and to confuse matters for some ppl even more go to the bottom of Briggs' wiki page and it says lineal HW champshionship who he suceeded and who suceeded him, but clicking on that link goes to the damn Ring Championship. sheesh!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon_Briggs
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