David Haye is a *****...............

[adamt]

No he doesn't! Haye has fought nobodies except for valuev and a washed up ruiz,
Wladamir is the undisputed heavyweight champion!
Haye has a paper belt,
Wladamir has been champion the lat 6 years, Haye has had one defence........
Stop being so ****** man

i agree wladdy has a better record, but remember its what sells more ppv's/tickets that counts when agreeing the split.

like i said haye brings him the most money/ppv buys.

even hbo dont show wlads fights on ppv coz hes such a boring fighter.
its haye that would make the fight exciting = ppv buys = hbo signing a deal

tell me how he's gonna make as much money without fighting haye?

[adamt]

Tell me what's exciting about Haye? You mean you enjoy seeing him beat up a 38 year old bum like Barrett or an old man like 38 year old Ruiz?

This is "exciting" in your book?

Haye won't be exciting at HW until his opponents are.

he throws bombs every round going for the ko!

oh do you prefer jab jab jab jab jab jab hold jab jab jab safety first bulls*** ??

[maverock]

tell me how he's gonna make as much money without fighting haye?

I seriously hope Wlad won't make this depend on money and agrees to all of Haye's demands, however ridiculous they may be. Just so Haye has no excuse to NOT make this happen.

My take is though that Haye will then come up with brand new demands every week, just like Valuev did with Vitali. Until Wlad gives up the negotiations in frustration.

[maverock]

he throws big punches every round!

oh do you prefer jab jab jab jab jab jab hold jab jab jab safety first bulls*** ??

Is watching Haye work the heavy bag exciting too? Because that's the level of opposition he's fighting at HW.

Exciting fights don't happen with one young, talented guy who can **** (Haye) and some old, over matched bum like Barrett, Ruiz or Valuev on the other side.

You need two to tango.

[adamt]

I seriously hope Wlad won't make this depend on money and agrees to all of Haye's demands, however ridiculous they may be. Just so Haye has no excuse to NOT make this happen.

do you not remember the demands both klitschkos made on haye when he first negotiated with them.

- fight wlad, but if you win :
- fight wlad in a rematch, if you win you must fight vitali
- oh yeh and have a **** split of the purse

are these the contracts of a hw champ confident of winning?

[SoldierWarrior]

Haye is the "Floyd Mayweather" in the Heavyweight division..It's seems like no fighters wants to fight for pride anymore.

But the comparisons are foolish since Haye gets hit alot. If anything Wlads more like Floyd for the fact that people have a hard time landing on him cleanly.

[adamt]

Is watching Haye work the heavy bag exciting too? Because that's the level of opposition he's fighting at HW.

Exciting fights don't happen with one young, talented guy who can **** (Haye) and some old, over matched bum like Barrett, Ruiz or Valuev on the other side.

You need two to tango.

thats true but if you watch his cruiserweight fights with world chamption and top level opposition you will see he still fights like this, just a bit more carefully tho

[SoldierWarrior]

I swear that AdamT is that flaming looking ***** Adam Booth. Does nothing on this board except hype up a fighter who doesn't deserve 50/50.

[adamt]

I swear that AdamT is that flaming looking ***** Adam Booth. Does nothing on this board except hype up a fighter who doesn't deserve 50/50.

nope.
i dont hype fighters, just voice my opinion.

[$partacus]

Obviously some of you don't know how negotiating works, Haye wants the biggest split he can get so he's asking for 50/50, he will accept less but wants to push Wlad to see how much he can get out of him. You don't just go into negotiations and ask for the lowest offer you will accept.