So now folks want Pac-Man out of boxing....

[HandSpeed303]

Good man..........................

You knew that though. I have said it before.

[Chups]

Piss tests are nothing in this day and age and so easy to beat , I guess thats why OST is being sort after by the world sporting bodies ,,,, Pac needs to man up and say Im clean no test bothers me , in todays climate you dont walk away from PEDS testing and give bull**** excuses that the world wont accept it .

Explain Marion Jones.

Then after explaining....why even bother watch boxing if they aren't doing OST which makes them all guilty except for Floyd and Mosley.

Will wait for your answer.

[Khalid X]

I just want to remind all of you.

When Floyd retired, all his fan did was make topics about him...Fantasy fights, when he would come back, what he would do when he can back, etc..

The point is, alot of his fans got worst!! They missed their favorite fighter so much, that they would come up with the most idiotic topics for no reason.

I read "If Pac goes, maybe his fans will too"..You are wrong. Dead wrong!

For the Floyd fans that think this, look in the mirror. Things will only get worst.

Pac is a great fighter. Just cause your favorite fighter will not fight him without OST, doesn't mean much, or hold much value to a large majority of fans. I really wish many of you would understand that.

Like I said, I have a feeling Manny will not be the only fighter to turn down this request.

I saw that Burner made a list of folks that support OST, but there is a problem with that list.

I have not seen, or heard any of those people request anything...Paulie is not even doing it for his fight with Khan. I see only one fighter asking for this. The rest of the folks are like most fans (including myself), I like the idea, but not from a single fighter.

Floyd is not bigger than the sport of boxing. No matter what any of his fans think.

It is Floyd's right to ask for testing, just as it is any other fighters right to turn it down. If there image takes a hit, so be it.

I really think the nevada commission is the one dropping the ball hear. Some seen to think that Floyd put Manny's back against the wall. Not true at all. If the commission would have stepped in, and demanded Manny take the test, we would have had the fight.

Floyd and Manny are great for boxing...No matter what you think.

I really do not think they will ever fight though...Floyd will not drop the demand (really, there is no way he can now..For any fight), Manny will not make the same mistake of saying yes, then backing out, and of course, the commission will not do their job...

Sad but true.

Pac doesn't need to retire. He has plenty of options. So does Floyd. I really wish the fans of both would give it a rest.


On A Side Note: This is not the only site that has gone to hell do to this ****** war of fans.

Co-sign. No one gives a **** about these test except Floyd. Even GBP thinks these test are b.s., because if they thought otherwise they would implement them in other fights. Hell they don't even have them on the undercards of May vs Mosley. Even sutherland has all of fighters tested on their cards....so believe me it's not impossible like most think.

Malignaggi, Cintron and others bash Manny yet they don't even implement testing in their fights.

Also all of these drug crusade fans on NSB are full of **** because why are they only blaming Manny when all the big names (with a lot of pull) like GBP, HBO and Ross Greenberg, and others aren't doing a damn thing to help clean up the sport either.

[shadeyfizzle]

Piss tests are nothing in this day and age and so easy to beat , I guess thats why OST is being sort after by the world sporting bodies ,,,, Pac needs to man up and say Im clean no test bothers me , in todays climate you dont walk away from PEDS testing and give bull**** excuses that the world wont accept it .

If that's the case how did they catch guys like vargas, nino, chavez jr, funeka???

[HandSpeed303]

That's a bit misinformed. During the 21 months Floyd retired ALL OF HIS HATERS MADE THREADS. EVERYDAY. MULTIPLE. I know this because I had to leave the site becaus every post I made was "Why are you talking about a retired fighter you don't like". It was tiresome to say the least.

I saw alot of haters too. I do remember that, but I recall Floyd fans making just as many (topics). Hell on some days (when the hater count was low), they would bring the haters out with bait topics.

Anyway-

Both sides did it you right.

I believe that Pac retiring will not help boxing. Nor will it run off his fans. That was my point really. I read it in some topic today. It just turned into some thing long, but I am will to adress any ponit in it.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

To be fair during Floyds retirement the threads were actually more then they were now from his haters.

[Talisayen]

Piss tests are nothing in this day and age and so easy to beat , I guess thats why OST is being sort after by the world sporting bodies ,,,, Pac needs to man up and say Im clean no test bothers me , in todays climate you dont walk away from PEDS testing and give bull**** excuses that the world wont accept it .

Here's another steroid expert that knows everything about PEDs. I bet you got your degree from the very prestigious Mayweather University.

Tell us more about PEDs Dr. Reloaded?

[Reloaded]

I thought he passed 11 NSAC tests??

Explain Marion Jones.

Then after explaining....why even bother watch boxing if they aren't doing OST which makes them all guilty except for Floyd and Mosley.

Will wait for your answer.

They are not changing a tyre , the commission has already said that it will take time and procedure to mandate OST testing , dont worry OST will become common place in time , its happening now with many other sports , there was a time they didnt even piss test in boxing and it amazes me that you dont see that times and technology change , the world is making a strong stand against PEDS .

[Khalid X]

Actually handspeed, even before the commission could do a thing, Floyd rubbed them the wrong way by showing them up. He should have atleast made an effort to go to them first, kinda like an employee goes through a chain of command if he has a problem at work.

Basically from the jump it was "the commission test are a joke", so how can anyone expect the commission to intervene when they are shown up by a boxer in the first place?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Actually handspeed, even before the commission could do a thing, Floyd rubbed them the wrong way by showing them up. He should have atleast made an effort to go to them first, kinda like an employee goes through a chain of command if he has a problem at work.

Basically from the jump it was "the commission test are a joke", so how can anyone expect the commission to intervene when they are shown up by a boxer in the first place?

Exactly.........so since we know that. Can we stop saying lets wait for the commission.

If Pac fans think like this then they should understand why its a contract issue.