Why do Floyd fans refuse to give any credit to Paq.

[craigus1990]

i always give pac props where its due and manny is a terrific fighter no doubt about it. him and floyd are the two best of this era i just think pac is recieving too much hype lately from the same so called experts who diss floyd, i think both these fighters have "ducked" other people in their careers, dont make them **** tho does it

[DR.ORGYY]

Cause he's extraordinary....

[shogunn]

I never said Pac is not a great fighter. You guys overrate his wins like he beat the best guys at their prime.

did you even read your post? you just discredit every win except for MAB, to save face.

You throw out a win like a cotto like it was nothing. But yet, some how believe you give floyd all the credit in the world for beating henry bruseles.

floyd's fan perspective - Henry bruseles, young, talented, even a bit slick > Cotto (he was weight drained, shot past prime, 29 years old)

[Reloaded]

The only thing I hold against Pac is he wont take the tests to fight Floyd , in todays world and considering the magnitude and money of this fight , I honestly dont think Pac has a right to say no because Floyd is really the only one that has a right to ask for it seeing he will the fighter in there , PEDS is so hated in sport Pac cannot walk away the world wont forgive him and will always doubt that he was a drugs cheat . other than that great fighter but if he cheats he can rot in hell .

[Shadow boxer 3]

u cant deny what he's done so i give him his respect but to be fair the *******s are the same way when it comes to floyd

[cupocity303]

Clottey is a B-level fighter with no offensive game.

Cotto is not the same Cotto who fought Margacheato and Mosley.

Morales was shot, past prime, and weight drained in their 3 fights.

Marquez outboxed him twice.

DLH was shot, weight drained, and way past his prime. He took the fight for a paycheck.

Hatton was overrated and Floyd exposed him as an overrated fighter.

Pac's best win was against MAB.

Not a good look for you and your camp when you ducked the two best WWs.

I used this post in another thread, same goes for this to save on typing:

Well that's classic selective-putting-a-negative-spin- to- every- good victory right there.

People do that to Floyd all the time and you guys are forced to defend him. Like Delahoya was past his prime, Baldomir is a bum, Judah lost to Baldomir and has bad stamina, Sharmba was a washed up jr.welter who moved up to 147 after getting Ko'd by Tszyu, Gatti was a bum, Chop Chop Corley wobbled Floyd, Castillo beat him etc, etc,..........on and on it goes.


I don't like getting into those sort of debates anymore, because they're tiring, draining, never-ending and lower your IQ as you go along.


We're just gonna have to agree to disagree. I see Pacquiao as an improved fighter and Cotto was a decent enough counter puncher OR had good timing with his punches (I.E. the counters he caught Shane Mosley with in the late rounds) and Cotto would've beaten the version of Pac that JMM fought, BUT that's not the version of Pac that he fought.

Lets leave it at that or shall we continue the circle jerk?

[War Dinamita]

did you even read your post? you just discredit every win except for MAB, to save face.

You throw out a win like a cotto like it was nothing. But yet, some how believe you give floyd all the credit in the world for beating henry bruseles.

floyd's fan perspective - Henry bruseles, young, talented, even a bit slick > Cotto (he was weight drained, shot past prime, 29 years old)

Everything I posted is true.

Mosley is better than anyone Manny beat since moving up in weight. Mosley right now > Cotto right now.

Floyd doesn't need to weight drain Mosley because he's too good. Floyd will beat the guy Manny ducked and the guy Manny wanted at 142.

[cupocity303]

i always give pac props where its due and manny is a terrific fighter no doubt about it. him and floyd are the two best of this era i just think pac is recieving too much hype lately from the same so called experts who diss floyd, i think both these fighters have "ducked" other people in their careers,

That's a neutral position to take, which is imo the correct position.

Both have good management and take fights at the right time (I.E. taking on Mosley now that he has been laid off for over a year and is 38 years old). Either you give them both props or you critisize them both.

[-EX-]

u cant deny what he's done so i give him his respect but to be fair the *******s are the same way when it comes to floyd

The End............

[Mrs. Iceta]

I used this post in another thread, same goes for this to save on typing:

nice one, cupocity